How far away are we from seeing games like Horizon: Zero Dawn and Spiderman 2018 on Switch/Switch 2?

[Chrkeller]

Soundwave said:

zeldaring said:

The games you mention have never been big to begin with  lol just cherry picked to push your agenda. Final was the only worth mentioning the series is being released way too often and On a decline it happens.

I can't think of many reasons to buy a pc with a gpu better then ps5 and also have steam account  if not for gaming, but keep pushing your anecdotal evidence as strong data points. 

Who the hell said you have to be a enthusiast to want better perfomace and graphics lol that's something gamers have come to expect with every gen. The funniest part about all this for months now you been  pushing false data saying most pc users are using something close to a 2050 lol as your main reason gamers don't care about graphics anymore except old farts.

So all/many of these people have high end rigs and are graphics enthusiasts ... they just choose to pass on games even one's that have won GOTY trophies (Alan Wake 2) and have one of the biggest IP in the planet attached to it (Avatar) and then you have Starfield which did not light sales on fire despite a massive budget too and being splattered over every Doritos bag and Mountain Dew bottle in North America (a marketing push that very, very few games ever get). 

Again my preference =/= market reality here. 

Something is clearly happening in the market which is different from previous generations. Now I find that interesting and would figure that would be discussed on a sales forum, not "XYZ is my personal gaming preference so that's all that matters". 

It's not easy to buy old cards anyway, most retail stores aren't stocking like cards from 5 years ago, lots of people just buy the cheapest or second cheapest thing off the shelf, at this point that happens to be 3050/3060 cards in a lot of cases. Graphics cards makers aren't willing to keep the older cards on the shelf and drop the price on those, they rather just phase those older cards out and move the same price point to newer cards. 

Not really, which is part of the issue with this debate.  

You seem convinced that the market can only support a single demographic, which is the low end non graphic gamer.  

Obviously this isn't true.  Sony is generating more revenue on the PS brand the ever before.  MS is making tons of money.

And you do cherry pick games.  The best selling game last year was Hogwarts.  Spider 2 sold well.  Forbidden West sold well.  Ragnarok sold well.  But you only want to cherry pick odd titles like Alan Wake 2, which hasn't even launched on Steam. 

90% of the problem is your narrow view that all of gaming is going low end and everything will be catered to Nintendo... the market is massive and Witcher 4 and GTA6 aren't going anywhere.  Graphics are not going to be stagnant.

The Switch has been successful but you act like the ps5 is failing, despite tracking ps4 numbers.  Sure the switch did well but so did the Wii.  And yet we aren't still gaming in SD with pointer controls.