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zeldaring said:
Soundwave said:

What's the 2nd highest used GPU on Steam? A GTX 1650? That's "high end hardware"?

Graphics whores are a minority part of the audience, it is showing in SALES DATA. Just because people buy new consoles and GPUs doesn't mean there's a 1:1 correlation to "these people must love graphics like I do" ... no actually there's a lot of different factors in play. 

Lots of people buy PC hardware for work/hobby/investment purposes first for example, lots of people bought PCs for crypto, lots of people want to be social media influencers and buy modern PCs to be able to edit videos, other people work in fields like computer animation, etc. etc. etc. They also then may justify the purchase by also saying "well I can also game on this rig too, cool".

That doesn't mean "OMG! They are graphics enthusiasts just like me". Fuck no. 

People are not buying games like Alan Wake II, Unreal Engine 5 showcases like Immortals Of Aveum, Sensua's Saga, Avatar, shit even on PS5 Square-Enix can't even get people interested in next-gen only Final Fantasy games including a remake. When we are seeing market trends like this it is fair to surmise there is a complexity of things happening on the market, it's not as simple as "I like this that means everyone also must". 

That is also a laughable dumb POV that gets throw around here a lot "well I only game with 16GB+! I need this level of performance! Well I only game at XYZ resolution! No one can play at 30 FPS! Nintendo should have used $700 worth of components for the Switch in my opinion!" ... like that has no relevance to wide market discussion whatsoever. I'm interested in what the actual market trends are, how they are changing, the dynamics of budgets in relation to that and the future of the business ... I don't give two shits about random individuals on the internet and their individual gaming fetishes as if that is some super important issue, least of all when they are niche part of the audience to begin with. 

It's not a dumb pov at all. people used to accept 20-30fps games on n64, 360, and ps3 hardware. As hardware gets more advanced people have higher standards, learn how to deal with it, and accept  other people's pov instead of using you own Made up data point sto push your narrative.

In a discussion about broad market trends and the overall industry, 3-4 people constantly trying to insert their own personal gaming fetishes and preferences is irrelevant and frankly stupid that the entire discussion has to always revolve around the preferences of a handful of people. I'm not interested in what settings you like to game at or what you need as a gamer, it has nothing of value to add to the conversation if we're talking the overall market, where the industry is trending, how massively rising budgets are impact the business, what strategies companies like Nintendo, Sony, MS, Valve may pursue in the future, etc. etc. etc. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 10 June 2024