| DarthMetalliCube said: Inter-dasting. Yeah, it's a tricky situation. Like, that initial Oct 7th attack was obviously horrible, but now it seems like Israel has gone overboard in their response and are massively losing the optics war currently, especially to the younger voters who HUGELY favor Palestine. I feel for the Palestinian people who have had their lands decimated at this point, though - it probably doesn't need to be said - very much NOT pro-Hamas. And that includes protestors that side with Hamas. I give a bit more leniency to Israel in a sense too, being essentially the only Jewish state (and a small one) in a sea of larger nations surrounding them, some of them hostile to them. And I also certainly don't think that means they should be hauling off and basically occupying what remains of Gaza, and bombing 10s of thousands of innocents just because they're in the wrong country, for sure. I'm typically more knowledgable and passionate about the culture side of things vs straight-up politics, but this issue is starting to capture my interest somewhat, as it seems to be ballooning. Interesting that it's also causing a schism in both the left (Neolibs/older Dems who are more pro Israel vs far left who are mostly pro Palestine) and the right (MAGA/Populists who are mostly neutral/non-interventionist and Neocons who are almost all pro Israel) Yeah that bill is super ambiguous and anti 1A, so very little chance it survives thankfully. |
I hear you. The whole situation disgusts me. It's time for this to end. It's time for everyone to get more reasonable and work out a diplomatic solution because there isn't another one. Realistically though, I think the region is headed straight for another years-long cycle of violence. Ugh.
On the protests, it looks like I'm more sympathetic and nuanced toward the pro-Palestinian protesters than most of the public. Did you see that recent Morning Consult poll on the subject? Apparently 76% of Americans (including 75% of Democrats) support the decision of many colleges and universities to call the cops in and nearly half think participants should be banned from campus entirely (compared to less than one-third who feel otherwise) and 41% also feel that pro-Israeli demonstrators should also be banned from campus. I get the sense from these numbers that the public is no mood to recreate '68 (or respect people's freedom of speech). I guess part of me can relate to the sense of exhaustion that's likely behind that sentiment, honestly. I can't disagree with the sentiment that basic human decency does not prevail on either side. I am tired of reading stories like this. I'm tired of hearing demands that university presidents resign over student protests. And I am tired of hearing stories of protesters demanding to know whether passers-by speak Hebrew and holding signs with crossed-out stars of David, stuff like this. I guess that's not surprising considering that it is a war that's being fought over (so to speak). It is disappointing though.
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