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Otter said:
Chrkeller said:

I agree 100%, game length is a terrible metric.  50 hours of crap is still crap.  But 30 fps max is crazy.  30 fps needs to die in a burning inferno.  

You're saying this as someone who plays primarily PC. It's like a PS5 owner going back to their switch and saying it's crazy Tears of the Kindgom is only 900p30fps. 30fps is still totally acceptable to the the vast majority of the console demographic which is why Sony has set it as the default in most of it's AAA PS5 releases (Miles Morales, Ratchet, Spiderman 2, Horizon). They also have a lot more user data research and feedback than what twitter & forum discourse provide you. 

Personally none of my friends who aren't on forums ever mention framerate aside from when games obviously can't runs stably (think Elden Ring).

Even on Xbox, once starfield released, I didn't hear anyone crying about its framerate once they actually dug into the experience. Instead the complaints targeted the actual gameplay and it's still Bethesda's fastest selling title. A stable 30fps vs 60fps will never break or make a single player game for the general console consumer

Perhaps.  I just would have expected more out of the series x.  Honestly I hope the switch 2 puts 1st party games at 60 fps.  30 fps is awful for anyone who has experience at 60+.