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the-pi-guy said:

curl-6 said:

I think of myself as a centrist because while my position on most things leans left (reproductive rights, science, equal rights, etc) the current left feels to me toxic and hateful. They seem to think the solution to certain groups being discriminated against or disadvantaged is to redirect that hate at other people instead of ending it, like being openly and even proudly racist against white people, sexist against men, etc.

As someone who was born (mostly) white, male, and straight, I just got tired of my "own side" treating me like I was evil just for being born this way, and that I had to spend my entire life apologizing for my existence and hearing myself constantly demeaned.

It was hard to really feel like I was part of the left when the left openly treated me like the enemy.

What passes for "left" nowadays just isn't what I believe in.

I personally don't think it makes sense to base your political spectrum on other people like that.

There are plenty of people who describe themselves as left wingers, who actually share a ton of beliefs with far right wingers. 

The Nazis labeled themselves as Socialists, despite not really being that. 

There are plenty of people who describe themselves as centrists like Elon Musk, who seem to most frequently agree with far right wingers. 

North Korea labels itself as Democratic. But I don't think it'd make sense to look at North Korea and go well clearly Democracy is bad. 

I am a straight white male too. 

I can definitely understand your view, it is frequently difficult to be a straight white male in a lot of more left wing circles. 

Maybe I'm more a disgruntled moderate leftist, but I just find my beliefs have increasingly drifted apart from what the left seems to be all about now.

I'm a "treat people equally, respect differences of belief" person, whereas nowadays, going by social media at least, it seems the left is more about "fuck white people, fuck men, if you don't conform to my opinions you're a bad person."

This could of course be the tendency of the internet to magnify the most extreme voices, but I've seen this sentiments echoed in real life as well.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 10 April 2024