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Soundwave on 13 March 2024
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Chrkeller said:
Soundwave said:

Well for one, RE4 Remake isn't "cutting edge graphics" exactly, it's a game that runs fine on a bog standard 11 year old PS4 and potato PCs and even the iPad. It even runs on an iPhone even though probably iPhone 16 or 17 will run it better, but the point is it's playable even on mobile hardware. 

How many of those copies did RE4 sell at full price? 

Probably half at best? 

Every time I looked on the Steam page it's available for like $20-$29. 

That also has to be part of the equation, some of these developers are selling games sure, much of the sales are coming when the game is heavily discounted because everyone and their grandma knows if you wait a few months you can often times get a game for 25%-50% off and if you wait even a bit longer than that, the discount will be even higher. 

No wonder Capcom's own president is crying about the price of games being too low. Their so-called "showcase" next-gen title should be Monster Hunter Wilds, that game looks like a PS4 game on moderate steroids. 

I'm pretty sure Capcom said more remakes are coming, so I'm guessing a number of copies sold at full price.  

You are still making this an all or nothing discussion. 

Graphics aren't everything but they do matter.  If they didn't remakes would not be selling millions.

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If your point is Cyberpunk shouldn't be the standard, fair enough, I agree. 

Most remakes don't sell that great. Where's the buzz on the Dead Space remake? 

The first four Resident Evil games are among the most beloved games of their previous generations, that's why they are selling as a primary factor ... the nostalgia. If Capcom remade Dino Crisis with graphics as good or even better than RE4 Remake, does anyone really think it would even sell 1/3 the copies? It wouldn't. 

If graphics were the driving factor for a majority of gamers, games like Alan Wake 2 should be debuting no.1 on the Circana charts and being among the top selling games of the year. It didn't even chart in the top 20. 

Instead what are kids playing ... shit like Roblox and Fornite and Minecraft, lol. 

The thing with graphics is they don't really impress younger kids anymore I think. That's just a standard and they don't really think of it as anything special, kind of like no one today really runs up to you and says "wow the special effects in this movie were amazing! You should see it!" ... because everyone is used to CGI in movies that it's not anything special any longer. But like 20+ years ago, it was still novel when a movie had incredible effects. Same thing is happening with game graphics, the upgrades have become boring and rote and predictable, the number of people who really care is less and less and this will compound and get even worse as we move forward. 

Even look at the context of what we're talking about right now, RE4 Remake ... a PS4 game ... a PS4 is 11 years old now. The PS4 is as old today as the Super NES was when the Playstation 2 launched, lol. Imagine when the PS2 launched if you were holding up an SNES game as an example of a graphics showcase game. 

It doesn't mean graphics and hardware power are irrelevant, but it is definitely less and less of factor to gamers and becoming more and more of an issue to developers because of the skyrocketing costs. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 13 March 2024