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Shatts on 27 February 2024
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Hiku said:
Shatts said:

Whatever the method, my problem is the leaking culture. It just kills the hype and excitement. You might say I can emulate the game early as well, but it just doesn't excite me the same way just like you can't handle weapons breaking, it's my preference. It's just annoying and immoral IMO. It's fine if it was just a couple of copies leaking early, but thousands and millions of people make it unavoidable. Emulating is one of those methods, which is why I'm ok with Yuzu gone until the Switch lifecycle ends. It's also annoying seeing people brag about how they are playing a game on an emulator as if anyone cares. People spend way too much time telling others they emulated than playing the game. Once again, it kills my joy of the game seeing those people.


For this case though, ironically I think the main issue would be that Yuzu was making money off of content they don't own through Patreon donations. That's clearly illegal from what I understand. 

I agree that those people are causing other people problems. But when Switch is probably the most hacked/modded system since PS2, even if you go after every single emulator, there are still going to be millions of people doing this on their Switches with every new game, spoiling things early, etc.

Although the monetization of Yuzu through donations seems like a morally gray area, I don't think that's illegal, in a similar manner to how a TV maker makes money off content it doesn't own by me watching movies and playing games on their TV.

But their patreon being supported is interesting, since in those cases it's probably less about people who want to avoid paying to play games, but rather people who want to pay because they appreciate getting a better experience with those games, since the emulator is free.

Not sure if I agree. I rarely hear people hacking the Switch compared to a 3DS or the PSP. Vita? I forgot which one. The 3DS is notorious for the "surprisingly easy to hack a 3DS" meme.  While I see more people talking about emulating a Switch game although it's most likely the effect of certain content creators.

Well, a lot of things are in the gray area, even emulation although commonly seen to be completely legal by the community. Nowhere does it clearly state whether emulation is completely legal or not. Also, I would say your comparison wouldn't work here because a TV and the content on it coexist, whereas Yuzu and Switch do not. The correct comparison would be more like a streamer mirroring something like the Olympics, which would get them banned. However, I think it would be fine if Yuzu benefits the Switch or Nintendo in some way. Like content creators. Content creation is also a gray area legally speaking, even with "fair use" but it's brushed aside because it benefits the original content most of the time. I just don't see that with emulation. In fact, it usually hurts the original content because emulating is associated with pirating. 

Or a bunch of people who have money, but instead of buying the actual product, they would rather spend it on the emulation because they are PC enthusiasts who hate console exclusives as seen from their attitude. People that can't stand the fact that things are not equal. Ironically, PC has the most exclusives out of any console in existence but nobody talks about that. More than likely people donating are either what you said or what I said. 

Last edited by Shatts - on 27 February 2024