Tropical Freeze or Mario Bros Wonder?

[JackHandy]

pikashoe said:

JackHandy said:

lol. Fair enough.

But if you put Tropical Freeze on the NES, it would not be nearly as good as SMB 3 with Tropical Freeze's modern polish on the Wii-U--and that's my point. That under the hood, 2D peaked in the 8-16 bit era, and it's been all polish/gimmicks from there on out. That doesn't mean there hasn't been great 2D platformers since then, though. If they're done well, I still enjoy them. But yeah...

The fact that you are saying stripping away aspects of the game to put it on nes would make it worse proves that 2d platformers have evolved since that era. 

No, that's not my argument. My argument is that the things modern 2D games do better are mostly in the polish-and-presentation department; that if you put TF on the NES where that polish and presentation would have to be stripped away due to hardware limitations, what you'd have, on a basic, skeletal level, would be far less than you'd have with SMB 3. 

The last time I played a 2D game and felt a true sense of wow and awe on a basic, mechanical level was SMB 3 back in the day, which is why I consider it to be the peak of the genre. DKC would go on to wow me too, but looking back, it wasn't because it did anything mechanically better than Mario (it was a great game, though). It's because it looked and sounded amazing, and that's how I feel about all modern 2D games. They're prettier, more gimmicky, have better sound and save points etc. But at a basic, core design? No. Not even close. SMB 3 still (unfortunately) hasn't been topped, and I don't see how it ever will.

It's peak.

The GOAT.