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zeldaring said:
Soundwave said:

Furukawa was president of Nintendo back in 2005? I must have missed that. Their management is completely different, their market position is also different, their market needs are also different. In 2017 they released a portable with one of the most powerful portable chipsets available at the time (top 3).

Sorry i'm not seeing this huge difference. they got the switch chipset cause by reports they got a amazing deal and the chipset was basically  useless to nvda, and cause the wiiu died prematurely. The fact that Nintendo never released a pro in all this time tells me they have not changed. switch has been super out dated for mobile  hardware since 2020.

The Wii could get away with having low end hardware because they had a freaking revolution for a controller that rendered the hardware irrelevant. 

It's like saying "well my mom was a supermodel, so that means I get to be a supermodel too" ... yeah well hold the phone for a second there, first of all, are you even good looking? If the answer is actually you ended up just being average looking, well then no, you're not going to have the same career your parent did, sorry to break reality to you. 

They were able to get away with things with the Wii and DS that they cannot get away with in the current market, even as is, the Switch 2 will have to be a massive upgrade over the Switch 1, not just a little one, otherwise people are going to say "nah, don't need it", unless they have some kind of incredible game play innovation ... but as I said above that's hard to pull out of your butt on demand. 

Those kinds of things, like the Wiimote, are R&D miracles that happen maybe once every 20-30 years if you're lucky, Nintendo hit it big twice on touch/motion controls, but as we saw with 3DS and Wii U, they weren't able to replicate that success because hardware gimmicks don't work linearly like that. Just because you did it once or even twice, there is no guarantee your third and fourth attempts will yield the same result. 

If Switch 2 is for 2024 what Switch 1 was for early 2017 (top end mobile chipset), that will be more than fine. If Nintendo put a shit chip in there for Switch 1 that was like 1/3 the performance, the system would have sold less than the 3DS IMO, a large part of the appeal is that it can play big, console style games along with other types of games together on one platform. With Switch 2 I think they probably have to lean more heavily into that, not less, because in 2024 saying "tada! hybrid console" isn't the same "wow" moment as it was in 2017 alone. They raised the bar, now they are going to have to keep topping it. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 11 February 2024