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zeldaring said:

I just wanna add I was a huge dreamcast fan that always defended thr graphics cause my friends would always be saying ps2 would blow it away, but when I saw mgs2 and gt3 I honestly could not believe what I was seeing, it blew my mind similar to the first time seeing mario 64, dreamcast never made me feel that way.

Yeah MGS2 and GT3 are serious contenders for "biggest generational jumps of all time". I had a Dreamcast before the PS2 and played around 30 games on it, GT3 was so far ahead of GT2 visually, that it could be mistaken for a generational jump over Dreamcast's "Sega GT" (which I completed in like one sit lol).

MGS2 demo was just unbelievable.