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NobleTeam360 said:

Well, I don't know what your definition of actively using it entails. Should i be using the service everday, week, or just a few times a month? Just in regards to games, I'm not actively playing something in GamePass Ultimate month to month and yet I've stayed subbed to it for the past 4 years straight

Plus I also don't really agree with your comparison of being at a restaraunt and just paying for what you're going to eat. At a restaruant I'm going to get charged for each item I consume. Streaming I'm just charged a flat rate and can consume as much or as little as I want (until they decide to raise it at least).

Side note, when I say I've soured on sub services, that was only in reference to streaming movies/tv shows. Gaming subs aren't at an irritating level yet since Game Pass is kind of the only good option at this point (PS+ isnt' bad but it's lacking compared to GamePass).

Active as in if you use it at all in the month you paid for the sub which you and me do which is fine - I know some people who never use it but still actively pay for it lol - and usually are the ones that complain about not being worth it because they are the same people who sub to all of them.

I guess my restaurant example wasnt a good example for streaming, oh I guess you could say Costco/Sam's Club membership would have been a better example, if you paid for the yearly membership but never go to the stores lmao.

Anyways, I would have jumped to Game Pass but there's so many other games I have, doesnt feel justified to sub to it personally (since I'm mostly gonna be focusing on playing 1-2 games now instead like 5-6 like before).

Pemalite said:

Unfortunately, if I was to turn my Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One X, Series S or Series X on, majority of the games are unplayable because my subscription isn't current.
So it's easier just to game on PC where those issues don't exist.

I think Steam offers the right balance, no subscriber bullshit, unlimited play... And that is what I want Xbox to bring forwards instead of Gamepass which is useless to me.

But you are right, that it's asinine to subscribe to everything at once, but I would also argue sometimes that it's a requirement in larger households.

Then you still have the issue of having a thousand different accounts for everything where you have to remember your details when you go to re-activate your subscription... Or the issue that for every "service" you sign up to and hand over your details, the larger the chance of having your information leaked/stolen/sold online.

Well my response was mainly to about streaming TV shows/movies, not gaming.

And ya, I agree about Steam offering the right balance, but it looks like they are open to offering sub services just as a host (which I think is kinda weird considering there's already an outlet for it but I guess its to get people to know it exists from Steam - https://store.steampowered.com/subscriptions/ea

^ Probably something on agreement when they brought back EA games on Steam maybe.

Larger households who actively use the services is fine, there's some people who live alone or live with just one other person have twice the number of sub services I have lol.

Yeah, about information being out there....a little too late for that for anyone who goes online lol.