| LurkerJ said: No one is suddenly talk about Biden's age, it's been an increasingly relevant conversation as time goes by, and it will only become more relevant by November 2024, there is no cure for dementia and cognitive decline, it doesn't matter which doctors you're surrounded by. Bernie is older but he's obviously more physically robust and mentally sharper. Both are at a higher risk of sudden death but only one is actually capable of running a campaign. We have ample of evidence of the DNC rigging primaries and weaponising mainstream media against Bernie and others. The "unelectable" brand he's been given by them is laughable when they pushed Hilary down America's throat as well as Kamala Harris, and now genocide demented Joe is more electable, ok. We've not had a fair democratic process without dark money pushing thumbs on the scale and the proper left isn't going anywhere by giving up all the leverage to people like Biden. (We're also not going anywhere if we ignore key issues people are concerned about, We had a chance with Corbyn here but he burned it to ashes because he was an idiot who ran an Anti-Brexit campaign after the people have made their will clear, he chose to be annihilated. As un-enthusing and horrible Sir Kier will be for us, he's at least not as a big of an idiot). Even if you think Biden is the indisputable choice, Biden running on "Trump is a threat to democracy" may want to clean up his own house first, the short of shit DNC is involved in reeks is the sort of thing you'd expect to happen in countries like Iran, the left should absolutely hold his feet to the fire and demand change instead of giving up all leverage this early. I also find the "Trump would be worse for Palestinians" to be insulting for Palestinians who haven't been able to have a shower for months, they're walking painted with the blood of their relatives breathing of the dust their homes were turned into. Biden is doing absolutely nothing for Palestinians and Netanyahu isn't listening to either candidate. JOE BIDEN WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE HE IS OPPOSED TO GENOCIDE IN GAZAThe White House is campaigning to spin Biden’s support for Israel’s war while actively facilitating the slaughter. https://theintercept.com/2024/01/17/biden-gaza-genocide-israel-aid/ He already has the green light to do anything he wants from Biden, how is a continuation of that green light from Trump is worse? it's going to be the same for them, no evidence suggests otherwise. Please, Biden has been slapped and humiliated repeatedly by MBS and the autocrats the USA put in power since he was elected. America's leverage only works over poor Europe who keeps backing the USA actions and suffer the consequences of those actions more than the USA will ever will. He's another American backed up war risking trade and inflation disruptions across Europe even though Europeans are massively more Pro-Palestine than Americans but nope, let's not make the USA look the only bad guy in the room here, that's gotta be good for us. To suggest Biden has any leverage over Israel 100 days into this war is a joke. And no, I don't like Biden and loathe Trump, I loathe both. Look how domesticated the left is, "I don't like genocide Joe", you shouldn't be treating a murderous maniac with kids gloves if you actually want progressives to win elections, choose your words more carefully. |
Unfortunately Trump is much worse and part of the reason why Oct 7 happened in the first place.
Hamas was still on the negotiation path before Trump, even after Trump declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel
DEC. 6, 2017 President Donald Trump’s administration formally recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, changing longtime U.S. policy, and announces plans to relocate the U.S. embassy there.
That sparked a lot of criticism including from the UN and Mahmoud Abbas. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said the U.S. had abdicated its role as a peace mediator.
Yet what became the turning point was Trumps 'peace' plan in 2020
Negotiations between Hamas and Israel for a long-term truce were underway and continued until the announcement in January 2020 of U.S. Pres. Donald Trump’s peace plan, which was embraced by Israel as a path forward but dismissed by the Palestinians as a nonstarter.
JAN. 28, 2020 With Netanyahu visiting the U.S., President Trump unveils a peace plan that proposes a potential demilitarized Palestinian state with limited sovereignty in exchange for the annexation of West Bank settlements, and promises to keep Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas immediately dismisses the plan as a “conspiracy,” while Netanyahu calls it a “historic breakthrough.”
Tensions rose from there and the situation kept deteriorating which eventually led to Oct 7.
Trump already called for a ban on refugees from Gaza, as well as all other Muslims, just like he did when he was in office
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-calls-trump-response-israel-hamas-war-revolting-dangerous-rcna120846
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231029-trump-pledges-to-reimpose-muslim-travel-ban-at-jewish-gathering
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-bring-back-travel-ban-muslim-countries/
And Trump's solution seems to be dealing with Iran?
In Iowa Victory Speech, Trump Says Hamas Would Not Have Attacked Israel if He Were President
The former president pinned blame for the Hamas atrocity on Iran, saying that, "It all comes from Iran. We would have had a deal with Iran very quickly" if he was still president. "Iran was broke," Trump added. "I said to every country, 'If anyone does business with Iran, buys oil from Iran' – they were broke – 'we're not gonna let you do business in the United States, and that's the way it is'."
According to Trump, Iran "had no money to give to Hamas and Hezbollah."
Former US president claims Russia and Hamas would not have attacked if he were still in office; doesn’t provide details on plans to resolve crises
https://www.timesofisrael.com/bagging-iowa-trump-vows-to-solve-israel-and-ukraine-wars-very-fast-if-reelected/
Former US president Donald Trump claimed on Monday that Hamas would not have attacked Israel on October 7 if he had still been president, vowing to solve the situation “very fast” if reelected as he took a major step toward a rematch for the White House in November.
Speaking in Iowa after winning the first contest of the Republican presidential primary on Monday, Trump said that “Russia would not have attacked, Israel would never have been attacked” if he had still been president. “The Ukraine situation is so horrible, the Israeli situation is so horrible. We are going to get them solved very fast,” he said, without giving details on how he aimed to achieve this.
Trump based his claim that Russia would not have attacked Ukraine on the assertion that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin “get along very well,” and said the same about his relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping. The former president vowed to “straighten out the world” if reelected, saying that global “death and destruction” have “never been like this.”
He blamed Iran, claiming that the Islamic Republic had been broke and unable to fund Hamas while he was president and claiming that as a consequence, there had been no terrorism during his four years in the White House.So if you want a war with Iran, vote for Trump...
(And of course his claims are all nonsense https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_GTD_GlobalTerrorismOverview2019_July2020.pdf https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2020/israel/)
