Famitsu Sales: Week 52 & 53, 2023 (Dec 18 - Dec 31)

[DonFerrari]

Shtinamin_ said:

Phenomajp13 said:

No I described as mediocre due to the software performance, you can't just look at the hardware. Basically hardware good, software bad leading to mediocre overall. That's not hard to understand. It literally has worst software sales than WiiU, how is that excusable. You are obsessed with Switch I see, so please tell me how Switch would be mediocre without telling me something subjective? There is nothing subjective about selling less software than WiiU and being considered poor performance. On the other hand, Switch is the 3rd highest selling platform in hardware history and like 3rd or 4th in software (think PS2, PS4, and PS1 are still above it). Two of those platforms Switch smoked in hardware and I doubt PS1 stays ahead in software, even PS2 doesn't look out of reach but PS4 I think is way too high software wise. Switch is likely the most profitable system in history and maybe PS2 and PS4 have made more revenue. In what way is Switch's global performance comparable to PS5's performance in Japan? 

I dont think DonFerrari was referring to Switch global performance (if I'm wrong on that please correct me).

Anyways, regarding PS5 and the WiiU in Japan only.

	PS5	WiiU
Hardware Sales	4.97M	3.33M
Software Sales	Min 4.35M	15.83M

Data comes from VGChartz & Famitsu Top 30 Software 2020-2024. If you find anything better please share with the class.

You are comparing a 3 year old console to a 5 year old console.

You cant compare apples to oranges. But looking at the chart, yes PS5 is having a rough time with PS5 specific software for now. Playstation isn't as popular in Japan as it is in Europe or the Americas.

And I dont appreciate the personal bashing. No one thinks that DonFerrari is a liar. Neither is XtremeBG.

Objective: Verifiable information based on facts and evidence.
Subjective: Subjective relates to personal viewpoints, experiences, or perspectives, whereas objective refers to factual data that is not influenced by personal beliefs or biases.
In this sense, sales are hard facts both software and hardware. Technology comparison between consoles is fact.
Having a preference is an opinion.

Facts don't care about your feelings. Suck it up.

Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

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Yep I was only talking powerwise or attach ratio wise for global where Switch is weaker in power and attach ratio is lower than PS/Xbox. But that is mostly because Switch have portability it both make the power envelope limited by definition and the attach ratio is usually smaller (possibly because you are more likely to have same household with multiple Switches or portables but maybe only one of a tabletop console, but only will buy one copy of a title and share among them). So comparing Switch power or attach ratio to PS or Xbox is very much wrong, as would be comparing rank of titles of PS and Switch in Japan because both comparisons are pointless. Switch is a great system, but if using Phenomajp13 logic to call PS5 mediocre than you could say the same to switch.

Yes individual titles, even the noteworthy ones of PS5 seem to be doing much lower than expected on Japan (with few exceptions, I think FF XVI and SM2 done relatively well, but could be wrong as I don't follow japan sales as much as global), but we can't really compare total software sold by PS5 and PS4 launch aligned and say PS5 is poor because I don't remember ever seeing those totals (yes there is ranking, there is sum of specific titles, but there isn't all titles sold). If we were count PS5 or PS4 SW sales based only on what made the Circana top 10, 20 or 30 for the year for sure the total would be considerably smaller.

Shtinamin thanks for giving the data of the ranking titles for PS5, would you have it available for PS4 at similar 3y window (and sure it is quite possible that it is much higher than that of PS5).