Phenomajp13 said:
Asking for premission now to post it, it's very alarming and is from Mediacreate. The physical sales of PS5 in Japan are horrendously bad, that's not objective. It's literally worse than WiiU and Vita. Switch being a bad console is subjective, the reasons its bad to you is irrelevant to the market as a whole. You don't speak for all of us, PS5 selling software like crap is the market speaking as a whole and its bad. Unless WiiU is all of a sudden good. Lol why in the world would you compare a PS4 title up against a WiiU title instead of the previous dominate platfrom in Japan, 3DS? PS4 titles didn't have anywhere near this amount of trouble ranking againgst 3DS titles because PS5 is doing significantly worse than PS4. Also selling less games than WiiU and Vita, all of this is physical so im sure your next excuse will be PS5 games are all digital. Funny you bring up 3rd party sales in Switch when that list is fully inaccurate. Minecraft was way too low and we don't have every game over 1 million on Switch because 3rd parties don't provide breakdowns most of the time. How do you know none of the Fifas for example haven't sold over a million when you can't even tell me the PS versions sales? Most of the time 3rd parties don't provide breakdowns. With that said, Nintendo is also a behemoth of a software seller and you are comparing massive selling exclusives to multiplatformal releases. If those Nintendo games were exclusive to Playstation consoles, they would also beat those major selling 3rd party games on PS because those major selling 3rd parties on PS would still have the disadvantage of being offered on Xbox and PC leading to the audience being more split than those Nintendo exclusives. You really think any of those CoD's or Fifa games sale over 25 million on just PS? Nintendo's first party exclusives would also fill a PS top10 or 30 easily. Nintendo consoles don't even get the most popular 3rd party games, making it impossible for 3rd parties to compete. The ones they do get are also placed at massive disadvantages vs. those Nintendo behemoths. Hogwarts was late and Fifa got its first real version and PS still has the marketing rights. What major 3rd party games should sell well on Switch? Minecraft and Monster Hunter are two major 3rd party games Switch received and do incredible. Microsoft confirmed Switch is currently leading in sales actually, that's the biggest selling game in history. Monster Hunter Rise was exclusive so that's unfair technically but it did sell just as well has it PS counterpart (Monster Hunter World). This is good for the other thread though so ill end here. I only call people that lie, dishonest lol. That's kind of how the world works. I already told Xtreme in another thread I had a previous account and lost the login info, the site being hacked I guess erased the past post? So no I had an account before.
Yes that's what eating crow means but we have been over this before, I felt like you were trying to mislead. It's over now, @DonFerrari continues to be dishonest about what I said. I didn't have an issue with your pessimistic prediction but instead what seemed to be you being dishonest about making it. He continues to claim I had an issue with it being pessitimistic, which doesn't make sense because I would want you to be wrong or "eat crow". All of your post is useless, no one had an issue with your prediction. You stated you were right all along about the 4 million and Curl correctly reminded you of your original 3 to 3.5 million. This isn't about your prediction but the potential dishonesty. We have already cleared this up, its over no need to come to Don's rescue. |
Ok I'll wait for the approval to post sales data. By physical sale you mean SW sales made in physical format? And you do know that in general PS have more digital sales than switch (and Xbox even more, with S pushing the boundary even higher).
Are you putting words on my mouth, lying or being dishonest here? Because I didn't said Switch is bad, I said it is weak and below mediocre IF WE USE THE SAME METHOD AS YOU. If we go and compare Switch HW to PS5/Series/PC Switch is much below average. But that comparison is faulty as is yours on comparing SW sale in japan for Switch and PS5, unless you also want to say that Switch attach ratio is terrible and below mediocre because consoles have an attach ratio of around 12 for like the last 3 gens and Switch is only 8.63?
I did mention 3DS together with the WiiU on the chart argument. Neither of those were as dominating as is Switch so if you only look at ranking and there was more ranking games on PS4 vs 3DS than PS5 vs Switch that is one of the reasons, and digital increase is also another.
You can skip the whole 7 of 52 titles on the 1M club for Switch part if you want. The attach ratio of 8.6 and 50% split of 3rd party comes from Nintendo itself and that give you 4.3 3rd party games on Switch and 11 on PS5 and if you look for total on Switch it is about 0.5B and on PS4 (that is where we had a firm number of 1.5B total in 2021) would be 1.3B and whenever PS5 is mature enough to be over 100M on HW the SW will probably be near that as well. Would you them say that Switch attach ratio is below mediocre and laughable compared to PS?
Regarding your old account I didn't see your post, what was your user?
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."