Famitsu Sales: Week 52 & 53, 2023 (Dec 18 - Dec 31)

[DonFerrari]

Phenomajp13 said:

DonFerrari said:

The software performance you are looking is sales of titles that charted and comparing it to ranking against Switch (that dwarf PS5 even on HW at Japan), I haven't seem yearly totals of SW for PS4 vs PS5 aligned to sustain your claim.

Switch as a hardware is below mediocre when you put it in comparison to PS5, Series S and X. Series S could be said to be mediocre perhaps, but Switch is quite weaker than it. So using the same bogus way of comparing what isn't directly comparable Switch is below mediocre then, but you hardly would agree with it.

zorg1000 said:

I’m not sure why you’re bringing up Switch, to be clear, I never even mentioned PS5 in any of my comments. I was not agreeing or disagreeing that it did mediocre, I was just disagreeing with your statement that, “best in 20 years year automatically means it did well”.

If my business lost money $1 million over the last 20 years and this year I made a $1 profit, I still didn’t have a good year just because it was the better than the last 20.

If a boxer gets knocked out in the first round in 20 straight fights and then makes it to the 2nd round before getting knocked in fight 21, they still didn’t do well despite doing better.

I'm bringing Switch because the user to who I was replying got very offensive when someone dared make a prediction a little lower than the others and afterwards correct it up (sometime after Zelda launched), but is very cool with calling PS5 sales mediocre.

Best in 20 years does automatically means it done well, again it may not have done well compared to other things (and those things aren't even comparable), but it done very well compared to how it was doing before so it can't be mediocre.

Which business would keep afloat losing 1M for 20 years without being governamental or similar? You are making cases of absolute failures for 20 years and suddenly it didn't do so bad. But even in statistic if you pick up those 20 years and have 19 years of -1M and 1 year of 1 the average (mediocre) would be -950,000.05 so 1 wouldn't be mediocre, mean, average, etc.

The boxer certainly would be doing well on his own progress. Let make your example a runner is doing between 11s and 20s on the 100m training for 20 weeks, but on the last 4 weeks instead of being near the 20 it was getting 11-13 and this week he broke out of it and got a 10. That is great.

You haven't seen software sales for PS5 to sustain my claim? Then you clearly aren't looking but since you clearly a huge fan, im not surprised you would close your eyes to this. Are you really saying there is no evidence of PS5 having poor software sales in Japan?

Switch is mediocre to you for a subjective reason. That was exactly my point earlier about being subjectice, Switch hardware being mediocre based on hardware power is the definition of subjectice. PS5 software sales in Japan are not subjectively bad, they are bad. Anything can be considered mediocre based on subjective reasons, I could easily call the PS5 crap for being as inconvenient of a console as it gets. I was literally playing Hogwarts on my porch watching it snow yesterday, guess which console I wouldn't be able to do that with? I plan on taking a flight to Florida in a few weeks to take the children to Disney World, guess which platform I cant play while on my flight? I have 3 docks, allowing me to move it to any tv at anytime. I watched a college basketball game yesterday night while playing my Switch, Xbox and PS are so inferior its not even close. This is combination with the first party ip is the reason why we have a conversation of Switch challenging PS2 for the all time record and never another Playstation platform, the market has spoken not my subjective opinion but the market.

On your last post to Zorg, maybe I shouldn't have come at xtreme about being a liar and instead you. Your logic makes no sense. I never got upset at his pessitimic prediction, that makes no sense. Wouldn't I want to see him eat crow and laugh in his face? I believed he was being dishonest about it, he was called out about having a pessitimic prediction originally but seemed to act like the 4 million was always his prediction. Here you are yet again bending over backwards to dodge what I said and tell a different story.

These analogies from both of you are useless, the PS5 is more than just it's hardware sales. It's software sales are why at best I can describe as mediocre in Japan, your analogies need a second variable. Imagine being the fastest airplane offering me a 30 minute flight instead of the two hour flight I need to Florida but it can only carry one passager at a time? Don't you think I would prefer that faster flight to carry more than just me and probably include my family? That's what the PS5 looks like, it sale as well as it wants but if the software isn't moving with it then that can't be good. Obviously this has lead to the belief that some of this is due to PS5s being exported else where and F2P affecting software sales. This would definitely help explain why its performance in Japan is mediocre, people in Japan don't have the console. Japan has some pretty good pricing compared to the other territories making it a good place to export from, the price went up and the hardware dropped. Don probably has his eyes closed though.

If you have chart for total SW sold by PS4 and PS5 in Japan why not provide instead of this tirade? Because as I said I have seem the Famitsu charts showing rank per week (in which yes Switch dominates) but not full year sum of all software sold on the system.

HW power is as objective as you can get, their are cold data.

Cool that you like to spin mean to words, from mediocre to liar now.

And you keep talking like you know most of the users for a long time, while being a member for less than a month, won't you disclose your true account of it got perma banned due to poor behavior? Because your current account was already moderated quite a few times in such a short time.