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sc94597 on 12 January 2024
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Chrkeller said:
sc94597 said:

Resolution is the easiest way to scale with memory bandwidth bottlenecks though. We see this with the Rog Ally and its 100 GBps memory bandwidth. The simplest way to scale frame-rate is to reduce internal resolution by changing the FSR setting or target resolution. You can also scale these other things too, but the Rog Ally (and probably Switch 2 as well) already run games at low-medium PC settings so there isn't much else to scale there. 

The Rog Ally is effectively a 720p -> 900p/1080p machine that plays demanding games at low-medium settings at either a fixed 30fps or variable 30-45 fps when in its 15W mode. Given the Switch 2's specs, we should expect similar, depending on the target TDP of the Switch 2 maybe a bit more like the 25W mode of the Rog Ally, which can do 40 - 60 fps variable at 720p -> 900p/1080p in demanding titles. I think that is what we should expect for the Switch 2 for demanding AAA 3rd party games. For Nintendo's first party games, which tend to depend on less demanding assets but nice visual effects, I think 900p -> 1440p docked is definitely a possibility. 

It is not unreasonable to expect the Switch 2 to be comparable to a mid-end 2024 gaming handheld, just as non-hybrid consoles are comparable to mid-end PC's of the year they release. 

I fully agree with everything you stated.  My point, which you seem to agree with, is the switch 2 is going to be low to medium settings.  The ps5 and series x is going to be medium to high.  

PS5 and Series X are more like a mix of low, medium, and high settings these days, but they are targeting sub-1440p 60fps (Native) or near-1440p/super-1440p (Native) 30fps in most current demanding AAA titles. 

For example in Starfield (internal 1296p upscaled to 4k on Series X, 30fps target), these are the equivalent PC settings to Series X.

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2023-starfield-on-pc-is-the-best-way-to-play-but-the-game-still-requires-a-lot-of-work

A Rog Ally is more like low-medium on all settings 720p -> 1080p. Series S is similar to Rog Ally in terms of features, some better ; some worse, but 900p -> 1440p. 

The Switch 2 likely won't ever get Starfield (not entirely impossible given Microsoft wants to work with Nintendo more), but I'd assume it would be similar to the Rog Ally if it ever did.