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CosmicSex said:

Machiavellian said:

Well he actually has not been convicted of anything yet so right now its still a toss up.  With how long it takes these cases to actually go to trial then appeal,  there is the chance he could be president and still get at least convicted in GA as I am sure he would drop all federal cases against him, which mind you should be something that should not be allowed by any President. 

As for Americans, they just vote for the party they feel affiliated with, then there are the total nut cases and in between are the independents who lean one way or the other.  It should be interesting to see how the election goes if Trump is the GOP candidate.

According to the constitution he should be blocked from running again.  The laws are just not being enforced.  But if we follow the law he is not able to run again. 

I don't really think the race is as much of a toss up as some of the polls imply.  People forget that Biden won by like 8 million votes.  Only 13 states in the US have populations a larger than that.

The Supreme Court will rule on that
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-trump-insurrection-2024-election-0baac5ba0c1868e437e365af17eeab24

Arguments will be held on Feb. 8, during what is normally a nearly monthlong winter break for the justices. The compressed timeframe could allow the court to produce a decision before Super Tuesday on March 5, when the largest number of delegates are up for grabs in a single day, including in Colorado.


Biden's pitch so far seems to be we can't have Trump back

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/president-joe-biden-stress-democracy-sacred-cause-speech-106126268

Joe Biden says 2024 U.S. election 'all about' whether America's democracy will survive.
Says U.S. came close to having 'lost it all' during attack on Capitol 3 years ago

Dunno if that kind of exaggeration will help him, especially while it's up to the Supreme Court first. Weird to start with this angle. Yet Trump is the same.

Former U.S. president Donald Trump argues that Biden and top Democrats are themselves seeking to undermine democracy by using the legal system to thwart the campaign of the current president's chief rival.



Anyway the total votes don't matter, Biden could easily lose the states where votes were close
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/12/14/biden-trails-trump-in-7-battleground-states-shedding-support-among-key-demographics/?sh=2f12222061aa

President Joe Biden would lose each of the seven battleground states likely to decide the 2024 presidential election to former President Donald Trump if the contest were held today, according to a new poll that shows Biden is struggling to reach key demographics, including Black voters and young people.

Not that those demographics would automatically switch to Trump, yet not voting is still half as damaging as switching votes in a 2 party system.

Overall, 58% of voters in the seven swing states—Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin—have a negative view of Biden, compared to 53% who have a negative view of Trump, according to the Nov. 27-Dec. 6 poll of 4,935 registered voters (margin of error 1 point).


Are there any good candidates running this year?