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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

And even the prices were correct.

That should push the prices down across the top of the stack both for AMD and NVidia. I'm expecting $850 for the 7900XTX and $700 for the 7900XT within a couple months or even weeks, and maybe a slight price drop again for the 7800XT.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

AMD Ryzen 8000G Zen4 APU series launch January 31, Ryzen 7 8700G competes with desktop GeForce GTX 1650 in gaming

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-8000g-zen4-apu-series-launch-january-31-ryzen-7-8700g-competes-with-desktop-geforce-gtx-1650-in-gaming

I have a hard time believing that it will be as fast as a 1650 when 780M was slower than a 1650 mobile in independent tests. But we will see.

Keep in mind this one will have more TDP, so it can clock higher, or more precisely, hold that higher clock speed much better. Plus, bandwidth is still the biggest limiter, so with fast RAM like DDR5-7600 there should be a big improvement over the DDR5-4800 of the 780M.

Edit: As for the 7600XT, I think it's somewhat overpriced - but that is due to the price of the 7600 being too high in the first place, that one should be more like $230 and the XT version around $270. At that point AMD would have a great lineup for budget-conscious buyers, but not with these prices.

At least AMD isn't overcharging nearly as much for 8GB VRAM than the 4060Ti and added some higher clocks to boot...

Maybe but when you are going to start pairing up high end ram kits, better off with a 6600XT or 7600 at that point

DDR5-7600 might have been a bit too high. I checked the prices for 32GB kits and a DDR5-4800 kit cost about 100€, while a DDR5-6400 was already available for 120€. Meanwhile, DDR5-7200 could be bought for around 150€, significantly expanding the bandwidth compared to DDR5-4800 for just roughly 50€ more; DDR5-7600 however is not really worthwhile because for the little increase over DDR5-7200 costs an extra 30€.

DDR5-6400 would certainly be the most cost-effective choice, but going to 7200 isn't prohibitively expensive - especially compare to GPU prices these days and even more acute entry-level GPUs. You have to pay at least 200€ for a GPU that isn't total crap. As in, an Intel A580 or AMD RX 6600 starts at those prices, with Intel A750 and AMD RX 6650XT coming just before 250€ (NVidia only has the 3050 in that price range, which is closer to the 6500 in performance)