Israel-Hamas war, Gaza genocide

[Machiavellian]

SvennoJ said:

Machiavellian said:

The only people that can stop Israel is Israel.  We can sanction, we can play diplomate, we can voice our concerns at the UN but it really all comes down to Israel.  Anyone believing that the US is going to be the savior of anyone needs to read history.  The US can barely be the savior within their own country let alone outside of their boarders.  What will stop Israel is a concerted effort by the world but the world is divided and thus Israel will always have the green light as long as they do not get overboard with their efforts. The Palestinians have to pretty much pull a Gandhi in order to get the world on their side and even then it might not be enough.

The US imposing sanctions on Israel would definitely put some brakes on the current war situation. And it's mainly the US that's keeping the world divided. Israel has long past going overboard with their efforts. However as long as the US provides diplomatic cover and keeps positioning itself as 'trying to contain the conflict', actively rallying other countries to protect the trade in the Red Sea, Israel will keep on going full speed ahead.


Instead the US does stuff like this

Republicans want to criminalise road closures used to demand Gaza ceasefire

Republican senators want to make non-violent civil disobedience a federal crime because it is being used to call for an end to Israel’s war in Gaza.

Senators Thom Tillis and Marsha Blackburn from North Carolina and Tennessee respectively introduced the Safe and Open Streets Act, legislation that would make it a federal crime “to purposely obstruct, delay, or affect commerce by blocking a public road or highway”, they said in a joint statement. The senators said this comes in “direct response to radical tactics of pro-Palestine protestors who have intentionally blocked roads and highways across the country”.

Netanyahu's government is already showing cracks, people in Israel already demand a change in government. Any slow down in the war will accelerate the change that's needed within. Netanyahu is pretty much hoping for escalation with Lebanon to shift the war there and keep his war cabinet going. He knows he's done as soon as the war is over.

However regionally things can also get a lot worse. Without US backing, Iran, Lebanon and Syria might no longer hesitate to go on their own revenge spree. And since the US is already so concerned about the trade in the Red Sea, they definitely don't want to risk further destabilization and rising oil prices. A fact Israel is most likely using to convince the US to keep giving them full support.

Israel has the US by its balls. Apart from the region about to burst into full scale war, no doubt Israel also has plenty evidence to further implicate the US in the evolving Gaza genocide.

I actually disagree that its mainly the US keeping the world divided.  The world actually do not like the US as much as Americans like to believe.  What is keeping the world divided is that different countries have different interest in the region but no specific country really cares about the Palestinians. 

As you stated, its going to have to be people within Israel that make a real change towards peace for any real traction to happen between the 2 groups.  Yes the US can assist with the move but its the people in Israel holding their government accountable that will be the major shift not externals forces.  The thing is there also need to be a shift within the Palestinians as well.  They need to find someone to really petition not only people within Israel but also Hamas to cease any action.  As long as Hamas continue their action, Israel will always use them as an excuse to continue what they are doing.