Israel-Hamas war, Gaza genocide

[Qwark]

LurkerJ said:

Qwark said:

Plenty of countries support Russia. Its just interests and the west has an interest in keeping things the way they are. Since the fall of Israël means there would be another vassal Iran state. Also isn't the West itself a master of genocide. The shit we pulled in Afghanistan was nothing short of it.

War is war and war without genocide is impossible. Israël is not going to stop and since the west has to many interests in the region they will not stop supporting Israel. They might make a public statement renouncing it, but the next fleet of weapons is most likely on its way.

And the question becomes; what do we need these allies for? What do we get in return of supporting genocides and cheer for the deaths of million civilians across the region? 

The fact is, these horrible allies have been bitch slapping Biden at every turn. Belkin goes there to get humiliated by every body. MBS atrocities in Yemen were allowed in the name of "but they're our ally, but the necessary evil, but we need their oil", blah blah blah. Russia hits and what do these ally do to save us from inflation and spiking prices? Cut oil, invite Russia to OPEC (now OPEC+) and flatten our economic growth and push countries like Germany into recession. They side with China, Russia as well as Iran. Amazing. 

What does Biden get from supporting Netanyahu? nothing, unless a higher possibly of defeat in the elections is a plus. 

The hawkish right doesn't care about what happens as a result of war and the apologetic left keeps pretending there is an "end game" and a good reason we don't just let what happens, but also a good reason to support it. Please. 

Aside from Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and some European countries the US doesn't really have allies. Only countries with whom their interests sometimes aligns and often not.

After Trump is reelected chances are high that the relationship with European countries will also become one of aligned interests and not really allies anymore. Just like how Turkiye is preventing acces to the Black Sea for minehunters which the UK wants to give to Ukraine.

An ally worth it's salt also supports you when things are not going so well. I dunno what Israel does for the US and Europe. Though I guess Europe, especially UK being the primary cause of this shitshow feel somewhat responsible for the Jews and will keep supporting Israel regardless, even though they might not agree with the war.