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Ryuu96 on 23 December 2023
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zeldaring said:

I said put is a saint compared to Netanyahu they are both evil but so everyone in power for the most part. To be fair I don't follow the ukraine war much. I did some research of why it started and a few people say it was cause of the US  wanted nuclear weapons in Ukraine so they could get a regime change in russia

Those people are idiots. It was United States (among others) who helped convince Ukraine to give up their nukes in the first place, albeit those nukes were useless and financially a massive drain to maintain but still, the United States among others promised Ukraine security assurances for getting rid of them.

There is no evidence to support that United States was about to put their nuclear weapons in Ukraine and how would that even cause a regime change in Russia? Putin who rigs all his elections is going to step down because America puts a few nukes in Ukraine? What does it even matter where they are? It ain't like United States couldn't just (if it wanted to) fire a nuke from American soil onto Russian soil with ease.

You know what would cause nukes to be closer to Russia though? What will convince NATO allies to invest in their own nukes? What will convince Ukraine it needs nukes on its soil? The fact that Russia is invading Ukraine in the first place, the fact that Russia is lobbing threats at Europe on a weekly basis telling us that we'll be next.

And again, Russia has nukes in Kaliningrad which borders Poland, our NATO ally. So there's a huge level of hypocrisy to think about when we pretend it's about nuke placement. Poland even recently has been throwing around being open to nuclear sharing because unfortunately the best deterrence to a psycho country like Russia is nukes (and now NATO) and that is Russia's own fault.

We tried to work with them for years, we looked the other way for years, we ignored their evilness in pursuit of peace and money and it has backfired on us. Russia has now provided the best argument for keeping nukes and increasing military investment to even someone like me who before used to lean more towards anti-nukes and less military investment.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 23 December 2023