zeldaring said:
I mean just look at the numbers, in 2 years in the Ukraine war 10k civilians killed vs 20k killed in 2 months keep in mind Ukraine army is actually powerful and being backed by the US while hamas is a bunch of guys with rpg's and AK's. keep in mind the reason for the war with Ukraine vs russia was easily avoidable. Russia has been telling Ukraine to Not sign with nato for 20 years cause putting nato on the borders of russia would be a huge threat, now compare that to israel hamas war which is just Israel wanting to expel Palestinians from there land and give them no rights. |
We're talking about the evilness of someone, if Putin could, he would absolutely wipe Ukraine off the map and kill them all, as they've been trying to do for the past 2 years. You essentially repeated what I said which is that the only difference here is that Ukraine is actually capable of fighting back so Putin's little genocide attempt is slowed down.
Therefore saying Putin is a saint compared to America/Israel is tone-deaf and inaccurate.
Gaza is a tiny strip with a concentrated population whose only exit is through Egypt while Ukraine is a massive country which had exits through Moldova, Poland, Slovakia and Romania so thankfully many civilians were able to escape but what of the tens of thousands Ukrainian troops that have also died defending their country as well? I would call those people innocents, many former civilians.
No, I won't keep that in mind, because that isn't the reason for the war with Ukraine, that's propaganda bullshit fed to you by Russia themselves who have contradicted themselves a dozen times over and changed their reasons for invading Ukraine a dozen times over. The reason Russia invaded Ukraine is simple, they're led by an imperialistic psychopath who wanted a land grab for resources and to leave a legacy of restoring mighty Russia.
Russia has no right to tell Ukraine what it can or can't do, Russia has no right to tell Ukraine that it can't sign with NATO, in addition to that, Ukraine was absolutely nowhere near to joining NATO because countries in NATO kept blocking them from doing so, it would have been at least a dozen years before Ukraine could join NATO, there was absolutely zero indication that Ukraine was about to join NATO.
NATO on the borders of Russia is not a threat to Russia unless Russia attacks NATO because NATO is a defensive treaty! For the love of God, there was zero indication that NATO was a threat to Russia. Lets also mention that NATO was already bordered with Russia and if NATO wanted to attack Russia, they sure as shit don't need to be bordered with them to do it.
If NATO was such a threat to Russia then why is Russia pulling its troops away from NATO borders? Lol. If NATO was such a threat to Russia then why is Russia trying to land grab Ukraine and therefore put NATO even more on their borders via Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania?! (And no Russia is not just trying to take Kyiv, they want the whole thing). Why did they not attack Finland before they joined NATO?
You don't see us crying at the fact that Kaliningrad (a Russian region with nukes in it) borders Lithuania and Poland.
If Russia didn't want people to see them as enemies then how about they stop fucking attacking everyone? If Russia has made an enemy out of NATO it's their own damn fault, especially after Europe spent years trying to bend over backwards for Russia and looked the other way at all the horrific shit they did. Oh lets not forget, genius Russia in its attempt to not have a non-combative NATO on its border has now put a lifetime enemy on its border.
See how it doesn't make sense? Cause it was never about NATO.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 23 December 2023
