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zeldaring said:
SvennoJ said:

The problem is, nothing is over, and it won't be over for generations the longer the current genocide goes on. Oil prices will soon go up due to escalations in the Red Sea, Arabic countries will / have abandoned normalisation with Israel and are looking more favorably trading with China and Russia instead of the West. Islamic Jihad, Isis, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas of Iraq etc get handed all the recruitment material they could have ever wanted.

It will be over for the West the longer our 'democracies' stand behind the ethnic cleansing.

The arab countries and turkey are just pretending they could have cut off oil to isreal but they are too afraid or care a out money more.

Yes, in that sense they are no different than NA and Europe.

Plus Israel exports a lot of weapons to countries without restrictions (unlike the USA that has checks and puts restrictions on weapons transfers for all countries except Israel) Israel also exports weapons AI including the 'banned' undetectable Pegasus spy software that many countries are addicted to.


FRONTLINE and Forbidden Films investigate Pegasus, a powerful spyware sold to governments around the world by the Israeli company NSO Group.

In 2020, the journalism nonprofit Forbidden Stories and Amnesty International gained access to a leaked list of more than 50,000 phone numbers. They suspected it contained numbers selected for potential surveillance with Pegasus. The Pegasus Project reporting consortium — which was led by Forbidden Stories and included 16 other media organizations, FRONTLINE among them — found that the spyware had been used on journalists, human rights activists, the wife and fiancée of the murdered Saudi columnist Jamal Khashoggi, and others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)


So no wonder most countries don't want to be too critical of Israel since Israel delivers the 'goods' without strings attached. They're in the business of exporting oppression (with Gaza and the Palestinians being a testing ground)

We live in a world where humanity, empathy and morality come last, 'luxury items' to be discarded at will. I just didn't think it would get to this open extreme. But I also didn't know how much Israel was into exporting oppression tools.

https://7amleh.org/2023/12/19/7amleh-center-issues-a-report-on-israel-s-surveillance-industry-and-its-impact-on-human-rights

December 19, 2023, 7amleh - The Arab Center for the Development of Social Media published a report on “Israel’s Surveillance Industry and Human Rights: Impact on Palestinians and Worldwide”, The report provides an overview on the reality of the Israeli surveillance systems industry, outlines its impact on the human rights of Palestinians and implications worldwide. The report relies on scholarly writing and policy briefs as well as previously published research on Palestinians living under intensive state surveillance which has increased significantly in the region following Israel’s war on Gaza, ongoing since October 7, 2023.

The report emphasizes that the development of surveillance technologies and their unchecked proliferation in the occupied Palestinian territory has a repressive impact on the lives of civilians living under military occupation and exacerbates violence to the detriment of human rights in Palestine. Additionally, the development of these surveillance technologies has human rights implications worldwide. The report also discussed how private Israeli companies omit the constraints of digital and AI-powered surveillance systems in order to market and promote these systems abroad, taking advantage of the increased fear, insecurity and repression they enable in the occupied Palestinian territory. Israeli companies also market their spyware, social media monitoring technologies, and biometric surveillance technologies as generic solutions to international insecurity, the effectiveness of which has been tried and tested at the detriment of Palestinians’ human rights.

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 19 December 2023