The Road to 160m+ for Nintendo Switch

[Garrus]

Shtinamin_ said:

javi741 said:

The Wii Mini kept on selling til 2017, so the Wii had an 11 year shelf life

Perdón, yes the PSP sold for 7 years and 5 days (Its 8th year, 5 days into it). PSP sold worldwide in Dec 12th 2004 with the PS Vita selling worldwide in Dec 17th 2011. Does that still make the whole argument invalid?

Yes those are all the times of discontinuation.
WiiU sold a measely 1 units in 2023, I gotta give it to little guy for holding out so long :)
I was specifying that consoles sell past their discontinuation notice, consoles sell past the release of their successor. The Switch is pushing the boundaries for Nintendo on what a console can do, and they will continue to do so.

XtremeBG said:

Wii was officially discontinued in 2013. There were some leftovers as many other consoles 1-2 years after that, which is why we have numbers till 2015 here on VGCharts. But if we don't have numbers after 2015 then it's not counting. Also XB1 sold units till 2022 however it stopped production in 2020. It's the same.

Wii U sold 1 unit this year, this does not make it's market life till 2023.

I have to give to the little guy for standing strong in 2023. But yes the WiiU sold for 5 years (4 years & 7 months).

Garrus said:

it doesn't matter if it hits 160million, it won't mean what people think anyways, it happened over a longer period of time, it is a sign of failure, not success

sure if it sold 160 million in 6 or 7 years that would be the best selling of all time, but if it hits is after 8 or 9 years all that means is that Nintendo made us suffer for a long time

as I've said before, we got half the Zelda titles, no Star Fox, no Mario Kart, no Donkey Kong, i'm ready for the next console, it is torture to use the Switch 1

So if I am understanding correctly, if a console sells over a longer period of time it is deemed as a failure?
So the PS2 is a failure?
+158M is a failure? I see +158M as an absolute win. It doesn't matter how long a console lasts on the market, because win it has stopped producing (we can cap the total), but after production finishes the console still has to sell those last produced products. The final number, and shelf life is when the last console is sold.
Your argument is invalid.

The only console to sell faster than the Switch is the DS. The DS reached 151M in its 8th year (7 years & 4 months).
The PS2 took it 11 years (10 years & 2 months) to sell 150M, so by your standard and I quote
"it doesn't matter if it hits 160million, it won't mean what people think anyways, it happened over a longer period of time, it is a sign of failure, not success

sure if it sold 160 million in 6 or 7 years that would be the best selling of all time, but if it hits is after 8 or 9 years all that means is that [Sony] made us suffer for a long time."
You said it not me.

If its been torturous for you to be gaming with the Switch then stop using the Switch, sell it and don't worry about Nintendo anymore, you obviously think they failed, so why would you want the next console (that will do the same thing, sell for too long).

XtremeBG said:

Either way the original post was that he was wrong about the Wii being on shelve live for 10 years, cuz this means 2016. 2013 is it's 7th year. Even if we agree on 2017, this is not 10 but 11 years.

Im not counting the Wii Mini for there weren't any reliable places to quote, nor was it included in Nintendo's reports.
The Wii sold from Nov 19, 2006 and stopped selling until March 2016
160427e.pdf (nintendo.co.jp)

(I may have been using wrong lingo so i'll try to use better wording)
Thats 10 years (more specifically, 9 years and 4 months, which is its 10th year).
The Wii had a lifespan of 9 years and 4 months, its 10th year.
If we include the fact that no units were shipped in Jan-Mar '16, then the Wii lifespan was 9 years 1 month and 12 days (still in its 10th year)

The Wii ended production in Oct 24th 2013, its life cycle is 6 years and 11 moths (its 7th year). If we include the RVL-101 (non-compatible with GCN) that was discontinued on May 2014, its life cycle is now 7 years and 6 months (its 8th year).

This really isn't complicated. The rate of sales matter, how many are sold per month and how many sold per year. That is what this website tracks. It is on the front page. It is what almost all the articles posted are about. It underpins the gaming business. It is what market share is all about.

If I sell two different systems, both 5 million per year, 10 million total for both, after 10 years I've sold 100 million consoles. 50 million each.

If you sell a console 8 million per year. After 10 years you've sold 80 million. You've sold the most of one console model, 80 million total, but you've sold less in total versus your competitor's two systems. Your rate of sales was lower. This is basic math, basic business sense, and what this website is all about. Why do you come here to read about how many have sold in the last month if you don't care about time.

Basic stuff.

The DS sold at a faster rate than the Switch. The 3DS was already being sold at this point in the lifespan of the Switch. Who cares what the total number is if the Switch needs to stay until the 8th year to equal what the DS did in 6. It took 33 percent longer time to get there.

"Your argument is invalid" made me laugh so hard.

It's time to move on. I've been waiting 12 years for an upgrade to Nintendo's hardware. Let's hope the Switch 2 outsells the Switch 1, not in total, but every month, and per every calendar year. That is what success will look like, not "how long do we have to wait until the Switch 3 goes on sale."

Last edited by Garrus - on 12 January 2024