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HoloDust said:

Jaicee said:
No games using female-only lead characters won in either community vote for any of those nine years.

Journey's protagonist could be interpreted however you like (male, female, hermaphrodite like in Left Hand of Darkness, no-sex...) - though I'm not sure why it matters in the first place that no games using female-only lead characters won in either community vote for any of those nine years.

UnderwaterFunktown said:
Jaicee said:

No games using female-only lead characters won in either community vote for any of those nine years.

Interestingly the 2020s is the opposite so far. Last of Us Part II and Dread in 2020-2021, then a custom avatar lead in Elden Ring with the biggest side characters being Melina and Ranni, Link will likely win this year though.

HoloDust said:
UnderwaterFunktown said:

Interestingly the 2020s is the opposite so far. Last of Us Part II and Dread in 2020-2021, then a custom avatar lead in Elden Ring with the biggest side characters being Melina and Ranni, Link will likely win this year though.

Including custom avatar leads makes Skyrim, Dark Souls and Mass Effect 2 female lead as well (ME especially, since FemShep is, more or less, cannon at this point).

Again, not sure why that matters...

The_Liquid_Laser said:
Jaicee said:

The change in the 2013 GOTY selection I would consider an improvement in taste. Most of the rest I'm not so sure about. Just my opinion.

In Dark Souls you can play as a male decaying corpse or a female decaying corpse.  It's very equal opportunity in that way.

Must've really struck a nerve with that point. It was just an observation.

Anyway, obviously I know these things already, as I listed those games (well, excluding Mass Effect 2; I listed the original for '07) among my own favorites for the corresponding years of release on these threads. There is no need to educate me. I worded the line in question the way I did for a reason.

Why does it matter if games tell stories about girls, women, female characters ("or hermaphrodites" ) rather than just stories about customizable blank slate characters wherein it doesn't matter? First of all, if the shoe were on the other foot, you would never say that. None of you would. But to answer the question more directly, it's because there is inherent value in specificity. Specificity is a door to relatability and empathy. There are experiences in life that only the females or our species have, just as there are those that only guys have. Everyone's stories should be told through this medium as far as I'm concerned because they all matter.

Anyway, to UnderwaterFunktown's point, this is true! And I thought it was interesting that that happened back-to-back here, especially in view of how few GOTY awards Metroid Dread won elsewhere. I remember remarking about that at the time.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 14 December 2023