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Zkuq said:

I guess this is a highlight of a major weakness of democracy itself, as the West doesn't seem to be able to look at the big picture that reaches beyond the next elections. Letting Russia win this war seems like it would be a major strategic blunder in the long term - but sure, not a problem for anyone other than Ukraine in the short term.

I agree that letting Russia win is a major blunder, but so do all of my mates who are a mix of right/left leaning people. I would be surprised if European elections would swing either way because of this single issue, we seem to be largely on the same page; Russia must not win. It's our politicians who keep blaming Russia for the cost of living crisis, but no one I know is fooled by this and no one is blaming Ukrainians for anything. I think the major weakness of Western democracy has been that politicians are openly representing everyone's interests but their own people. Corporate puppets, voted in by the people and paid by corporations, including the weapons industry. 

Unless I am so out of loop with recent polls and European media coverage? Obviously, the USA is a separate case study, but it's unfortunate that ultimately, they'll be the one to decide how long Ukraine will be supported for. 

I generally agree with your message, but voters are blamed for everything even when they vote in the "correct" candidate while their living standards fall year after year. The vast majority of Americans, even republicans, don't support the genocidal far right regime massacring children they way Biden does, his support has crashed among his own base over 2 months ago, he's risking his re-election chances, and he's barely doing anything to correct course, literally no one asked him to die on this genocidal hill except AIPAC. 

Last edited by LurkerJ - on 07 December 2023