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Chrkeller said:
Soundwave said:

Equivalent hardware isn't required to be part of the same generation. 

By that logic then a 3090 even is a different generation from the PS5 or a 2080, but no one seriously says that. 

Or XBox Series S is a different generation from Playstation 5. No one seriously says that either. 

Generational leap has to be something where the successive hardware runs the majority of its games that the other hardware that you're trying to claim is in a different generation cannot run. Like for example a Playstation 2 versus a Playstation 1. If a PS1 could run PS2 games at just moderately lower settings and resolution but otherwise it was running the same games, then you have a problem there, that is not a generational leap any longer. That distinction becomes entirely meaningless in that case. 

That argument doesn't work anymore when the hardware you're trying to say "is last generation" is running many of the same games even at lower settings.

The Switch 2 will likely have a ton of PS5 ports for various reasons, more than the Switch 1 had in common with the PS4, but there's already a system that basically does this, Steam Deck will likely in a few years have something like 75, 80, 100 PS5/XSX only games that it runs. That automatically invalidates it as a "PS4 level hardware". If it's "PS4 level hardware" it shouldn't be running those games period, in any form other than like maybe 2 frames per second. 

Please don't make things up and put words in my mouth.  I've never even said the word "generation."  Thanks in advance and enjoy your day.

You're using the implication of a generational leap by dying on the hill of "PS4 hardware only!". The distinction is meaningless if "PS4 hardware" also means "but lots of PS5 games". Well then it's not a PS4 then and saying so strictly is pointless. 

It's something else entirely. 

A Steam Deck for example is already not PS4-tier hardware. Why? Because runs a bunch of games it shouldn't be running if it's only a PS4, which will balloon to dozens of games in a few years. You can't have it both ways. 

A more accurate likely descriptor for the Switch 2 is PS4 performance is its low baseline and its high end is being able to run PS5-XSX generation games at a lower resolution, some effects scaled down. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 16 November 2023