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Ryuu96 said:

Yeah it's all good, I was just seeking some clarification on some statements made. I do agree with you on a lot of what you have said, especially about IDF/Netanyahu and double standards. I also think a thread on the Israel/Gaza war is a fine idea but I won't be able to moderate it as I won't be able to keep up with the topic as much as needed, it probably would need a Mod to keep a close eye on it.

You're doing an excellent job with the Ukraine thread already, which is much harder to find news about nowadays. It's pretty much my only source now for what's going on there.

I'm just glad there is mostly civil conversation on this site. What kills me inside is accidentally glancing at the comments on Twitter and You Tube, people cheering on the destruction and blaming the victims for living there. But yes a thread would still need moderation. Other gaming sites won't touch the subject, when Eurogamer says anything that could be linked to the conflict the comments section is disabled by default. The games for Gaza bundle still raised $336K, it's something. (In comparison the games for Ukraine bundle raised $6.3 million. Also had 4 times as many games and much more known ones)

The cost to rebuild Gaza already runs in the tens of Billions. The 2014 war cost 4-6 Billion

The UN estimated that more than 7,000 homes for 10,000 families were razed, together with an additional 89,000 homes damaged, of which roughly 10,000 were severely affected by the bombing. Rebuilding costs were calculated to run from US$4–6 billion over the course of 20 years.

This time Israel has already destroyed 41,000 homes, estimated 45% of all homes are damaged.

https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/unrwa-situation-report-28-situation-gaza-strip-and-west-bank-including-east-Jerusalem

Almost 1.6 million people have been displaced across the Gaza Strip since 7 October. Three additional shelters were opened in Rafah. Nearly 778,000 internally displaced persons (IDPs) are now sheltering in 154 UNRWA installations across all five governorates of the Gaza Strip, including in the north.


The numbers are simply too large to comprehend. And still pale in comparison to the rapidly increasing death toll

Gaza

  • According to the Ministry of Health (MoH) in Gaza, over 11,078 people have been killed in the Gaza Strip since 7 October; two third of them are believed to be children and women.
  • Over 27,490 people have been injured. Around 2,700 others, including 1,500 children, have been reported missing and may be dead or trapped under the rubble, awaiting rescue or recovery.
  • Overall, around 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals have been killed in Israel, according to Israeli Authorities, the vast majority on 7 October (OCHA).

The West Bank

  • According to OCHA, since 7 October, 169 Palestinians, including 46 children, have been killed by Israeli Security Forces (ISF) and eight, including one child, by Israeli settlers

I fear this is going to be another long war, and the longer it goes on, the higher the chance the conflict will spill over further. Plus I see little hope for the safe return of the hostages. They're just being used as an excuse not to have a ceasefire, which makes no sense.

Here's some context that might visualize the numbers a bit, 2.3 million people in Gaza (Gaza is upside down here)

(NY City's population is 8.5 million)

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 13 November 2023