| SvennoJ said: @Ryuu96 By "so much worse" I meant the humanitarian situation and collective punishment. What the Russian 'army' (if you can still call it that) does in Ukraine is unbelievable, basically the way Hamas operates with their attacks, unforgiveable. The worse part I was referring to is turning off the electricity, fuel, water, food, medical deliveries. Basically turning the open air prison that Gaza already was into an open air death camp. People in Gaza can't even leave the area, limited aid trickling in seems to be more for photo ops than actual help. Now it seems the IDF is waiting for the power to run out that keep communications going. They've already managed to isolate Gaza a couple times but under pressure of the US restored communications. Same with the siege on hospitals, starve them out to force people to leave or die, so they can raise Gaza city to the ground without witnesses. 41 journalists have been killed already as well. https://rsf.org/en/israelpalestine-war-41-journalists-more-one-day-killed-first-month-israel-palestine-war IDF of course denies targeting journalists, yet the only thing holding them back from storming the hospitals is that there are still people there in contact with UNWRA, WHO, Unicef and people getting images out. The US has made clear they don't want firefights inside the hospitals, yet everything right around them has already been bombed with collateral damage happening daily. https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/israel-target-civilians-gaza-fetterman-rcna123890 Since Hamas’ massacre of Israelis on Oct. 7, Israel has dropped nearly as many bombs in Gaza — a small strip of land with about 20,000 people per square mile — as the U.S.-led coalition dropped over all of Afghanistan in its heaviest year of bombardment during the war there. The Israel Defense Forces have leveled extraordinary amounts of civilian infrastructure, hitting an untold number of buildings that include apartment buildings, hospitals, mosques, schools and U.N. shelters. Entire blocks have been turned to rubble, entire families have been wiped out. Israel’s military has killed more Gazan children in weeks than were killed in all conflict zones annually since 2019. It has killed more U.N. aid workers than in any other comparable period of its history. It has killed, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, more journalists in the opening weeks of the bombing than over a similar period of time in any conflict since the committee began tracking them in 1992. Israel has claimed that it’s attempting to save civilian lives by telling Gazans to move south to avoid being hit — and then it has struck designated safe zones in the south, too. Many Gazans also can’t go south because of health or mobility constraints, or fear that they could be in even more danger if they do because they don’t know where they’ll stay or how they’ll survive. |
Yeah it's all good, I was just seeking some clarification on some statements made. I do agree with you on a lot of what you have said, especially about IDF/Netanyahu and double standards. I also think a thread on the Israel/Gaza war is a fine idea but I won't be able to moderate it as I won't be able to keep up with the topic as much as needed, it probably would need a Mod to keep a close eye on it.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 12 November 2023
