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[SvennoJ]

Cobretti2 said:

I was wondering why there was no thread about Israel and Palestine. Honesty it deserves it's own thread.


@SvennoJ "The oppressed becoming the oppressor is repeated all over history"

Well said. This shit been driving me insane for years. So many people can't see this though. This is why wars continue because the oppressed kids become the oppressors and the cycle goes on and on and on. At some point the world leaders need to stand up and acknowledge this.

Hamas needs to be taken down but not at the cost of innocent lives.

Yeah it was even more painful yesterday "Lest we forget" Well it seems the world forgot again. Or misinterpreted as usual as it's that pain from WW2 that's now driving the ongoing atrocities. "Never again" is Netanyahu's slogan.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-never-again-is-now-israel-fighting-war-for-all-of-humanity/

Blind hatred is what I see on both sides. While those that came together over the years are now being driven apart again. Peter F Hamilton made an observation about humanity in his sci-fa sagas, "Human emotions, particular anger, are a very convenient way to bypass moral issues". His stories often deal with existential threats and the moral issues of "self defense".

Hamas needs to go, as well as Israels right wing extremist government including Netanyahu. One even jokingly suggested the nuclear option was one solution.
https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-minister-amichai-eliyahu-suspend-benjamin-netanyahu-nuclear-bomb-gaza-hamas-war/
At least he was suspended, but the sentiment is there, as well as in the leaked plans to drive Gaza into the Sinai Desert.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-palestinians-concept-paper-1.7015576
Ethnic cleansing, here we go again.

This conflict does deserve its own thread. I have to limit my exposure though, just about did me in Friday night.
At least it was heart warming to see all the demonstrations yesterday