Don't know if it's useful to compare which is worst. What is happening or has happened in Ukraine, Israel and Gaza is horrific all round. By the end of both wars they'll both likely have causalities in the hundreds of thousands. I wish there could be a cease-fire to evacuate civilians but unfortunately I don't think IDF has any intention of stopping, no matter what anyone says to them.
Mainly take issue with the EU comment, if you mean that EU is perpetuating the war in Ukraine by not sending Ukraine what it needs to crush Russia faster and instead trickling out aid then I would agree. If you mean perpetuating it by not doing a peace deal with Russia then that's incorrect. The West tried to warn Russia multiple times, had Macron practically on his hands and knees begging Putin not to do it.
The difference is that The West is aiding Israel in invading another region (Gaza) and Israel goes on indiscriminate bombings. While with Ukraine, the West is aiding Ukraine is defending itself from an aggressor and even then slaps dozens of rules of them which they follow for the most part. These situations aren't comparable. Unfortunately Ukraine is being dragged into Israel discussions more and more, around the topic of funding wars.
I believe the messaging should be different on Ukraine. We are not "funding a war", we are funding a defence. Ukraine's fight is for its survival. There is no peace deal, Russia does not want one, they have never wanted a true one, a "peace deal" only delays Russia's ultimate goal while they rebuild which is a complete takeover and ethnic genocide of Ukraine. For Ukraine it is fight or die, they have no other choice.
The West is aiding Ukraine in that, the West is not deciding when Ukraine's war ends because Ukraine is its own country, only Ukraine has the final say on when the war ends. These are the differences. What the IDF has done to Palestinians over the years is horrific and the West can be and should be criticised for turning a blind eye to it, Ukraine's situation is different though and they deserve our full support.
I don't know enough about the Israel/Hamas conflict, I think both IDF and Hamas are abhorrent (Netanyahu is a piece of shit too) and neither care about the innocents in their war, I feel sorry for the innocent Palestinians and Israelis caught up in the war and I honestly don't know the solution to this particular matter so I won't pretend to know. This situation is far more complicated than Russia vs Ukraine.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 11 November 2023
