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Ryuu96 said:
crissindahouse said:

I've edited my post already. Scholz believes (if that info is correct) that France and UK are "allowed" to be more involved as Germany so that German soldiers aren't allowed to program Taurus with topographic data while those from UK and France are allowed to use them for their cruise missiles. 

Not sure if he believes that because of WW2 but wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason even if that has nothing to do with this war in 2023.

Makes no sense to me, Lol.

But yeah, it's probably holdover fear from WW2...Germany needs to move past that or they will always be exactly where Russia wants them, too afraid to do the right thing...Is this a big thing in Germany cause I've sort of heard similar sentiment from other Germans, almost like a fear of your own military power...

Wouldn't call if fear of military power but our military definitely isn't as beloved as that in USA or other countries probably also because of how we talk about our history starting very early in school which is very different to pretty much all other countries I know about. Most people in countries like USA are proud of their military and soldiers and respect them even though they also did a lot of bad stuff in the past. It's hard to build a society respecting our soldiers when all you hear is how German soldiers were always the bad guys lol. 

It's important that we get reminded about our past so that this shit won't happen again but we should at least try to start respecting those who would give their life to protect us. But instead of that many look down on them as if they are the bad guys and guys like Scholz fear a lot to do even a tiny military misstep because that would be welcome to many just to say "we said so". Also doesn't help that we have some political parties and important politicians here who lean more to Russia as to USA and right now our political landscape is crazy. It's like any party can lose or win 10-20% right now lol. 

Last edited by crissindahouse - on 06 November 2023