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chakkra said:
RolStoppable said:

Because the Xbox fans in question have seemingly no clue about anything. Xbox Series is tracking behind Xbox One by now. Xbox's first party output has been weak for a very long time. Phil Spencer is not getting the job done.

If you hate Xbox (and many gamers do), then Phil is the guy you want to have working there.

So.. we're just gonna keep pretending that this has been a great year for Sony...  Okay..

Oh, btw, I think Phil Spencer had something to do with Xbox´s gamers being able to play MLB The Show on release date on Game Pass, and I think Jim Ryan had something to do with playstation players NOT being able to play MLB The Show on their subscription service.

If you want me to factor in Sony's down year, it's only going to look even worse for Microsoft because they aren't able to capitalize on it. Much of this has to do with the tone that has been set during the first two years of the PS5 and Xbox Series, so finally having something to show with Starfield is too late. It also doesn't help that it's a Bethesda game which is best played on a PC. The Sony list you posted is very short for 2023, but in terms of hardware selling power it still trumps Microsoft's 2023.

As for your second statement, it's a stretch. I don't think that the PS gamers who don't like Ryan view MLB on the subscription service as something of importance. But Xbox gamers certainly do care a lot about Gamepass, so I concede that this example makes Spencer more likeable; the question is if such a little thing can offset the shortcomings of his leadership.

zero129 said:
Mar1217 said:

Kind of insane when at a point last year, most of us thought the Series could have outpace Xbox 360 for a moment.

His post is clearly a pretty bad take Xbone tracked ahead of X360 at the same time. Look how that turned out..

XSeries is tracking about or ahead of where x360 was without even most of their biggest games launching, coming out from covid, and we still have not even seen the sales effect of Starfield and forza at the end of the year. Going into next year we are looking at Hellblade 2, Avowed and another number of big Console exclusives.

Honestly i think his point is pointless since it can and is going to be seen that all the fruits of Phils labour when it comes to xbox is now only starting to hit and they are going to be hitting hard from here on out imo.

Rol should be more worried about how so many Japenese gamers are embracing PC now imo. even more so with PC's getting smaller and smaller.....

When Xbox One tracked ahead of the 360, I told people that it will not only be impossible for the Xbox One to stay ahead, but also not possible to come reasonably close in lifetime sales. A snapshot in time can be very misleading, hence why it's important to understand how sales momentum works.

That's why Xbox Series tracking ahead of the 360 means just as little as it meant for the Xbox One to track ahead of the 360. The 360 had a poor first year and was only able to pick up momentum because the PS3 was an even bigger blunder and caused third parties to make their games multiplatform from which the 360 greatly benefited. The Xbox Series has no such unexpected advantage on this scale, because it was already clear at the time of its reveal that it would get lots of major third party games. A few Xbox first party games can never have the level of effect that dozens of AAA third party games had for the Xbox 360.

2023 is not the year where Xbox Series sales should be down notably year over year when you are aiming for a successful generation. Even if both Starfield and Forza turn out to be big for Xbox, they'll likely only manage to make the full year of 2023 flat in comparison to the whole of 2022. That is still not a promising result for sales going forward.

As for Japan and PCs, one has to do nothing more than look at Japanese software sales charts. Of Japan's current top 20 most popular gaming IPs, almost all of them are exclusive to Nintendo. But because of this final statement of yours, I am willing to amend my previous statement that "the Xbox fans in question seemingly have no clue about anything." You can scratch the word "seemingly" from it.



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