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Soundwave said:

Pippin is somewhat irrelevant as it was made in that weird era where Steve Jobs was forced out of Apple and they completely lost their way as a company. Since Jobs came back and subsequent to that they are much better run company (to put it mildly). Your point about Microsoft thinking Sony was going to be a threat to their OS business just underscores their stupidity ... they were watching the Playstation when they should have been paying attention to Apple who actually did create the next big OS post-Windows.

If Apple was in the game business and took it seriously with a Jobs or Cook at the helm, they would've broke Sony in half with the Playstation 3 and never let them recover from that. It's not that hard to invest in some good dev studios either when you have that much money. Apple makes some high quality TV shows and movies now despite being a newcomer is those areas without a lot of experience. 

Sony as I said dominates in almost no other business they operate in except the stationary console market. It's not because they're brilliant, it's because in the stationary console market their competition frankly is pretty stupid. 

Nintendo has basically been this in that market after the SNES ended:

Just drunk off their ass for most of that period with a short 3 year stint where they looked sober but were drinking behind the scenes and then hard back into the booze right after. 

And Microsoft is basically the equivalent of this in the console business:

Not the brightest bulb in the pack. 

People can feel free to disagree but I'm just not that impressed by that. Sony just sits around and wait for their opponent to gift them a dumb mistake and MS/Nintendo at least with stationary home consoles just go out of their way to take the bait every time. Even this generation where Microsoft supposedly "learned their lessons from XBox One", they apparently forgot you need to have even one 1st party exclusive that is a system seller at some point in your 1st 3 years. 20 years and tons of money invested in multiple studios including the mismanaged Rareware and they can't even come up with one lousy title that is a must have. How hard is it really to beat an opponent that poorly managed. It's really not terribly difficult to conceive of a better competitor than that. 

This discussion hasn't been long yet, but it's already at the point where it's better to just let time resolve things. Apple sucks at gaming and not even Microsoft has to worry about them.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.