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Soundwave on 14 September 2023
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

Apple ain't Microsoft, don't kid yourself. Microsoft is a clumsy, bit of a dumb dinosaur of a company that gets by because they had daddy's back account (the Windows business). 

Contrast to Apple which has proven itself over and over again with hit after hit product.

They're not even trying to be a gaming company and their gaming revenue almost matches Sony and in some years has even overtaken Sony, lol. Think about that for half a second. 

This is like a basketball player who doesn't really train for baseball just stepping onto a baseball field and casually being able to not only hold their own against other All-Star level talent but even outperform them in several cases. What would happen if they actually put some effort into practising baseball? 

Money from whales is not the same as money from gamers. What this means is that if Apple made a console, the consumers who spend currently the most on the App Store by far won't transition because they aren't interested in consoles to begin with. And obviously Apple would have to make a console, because it's abundantly clear that a non-console cannot make consoles obsolete.

So the proper sports analogy here would be a baseball player (baseball is not a respected sport, so it matches mobile gaming which is not respected gaming) thinking that he can compete in football (what Americans call soccer). He'll fail spectacularly and get booed off the field, because the required skills are in a whole different league.

Microsoft may suck at consoles, but they would still beat Apple easily. Microsoft lacks games in comparison to Sony and Nintendo, but that's still far above Apple's no games.

lol, you seriously think if Apple really *really* wanted to compete in the console space, they'd be sitting here with a mediocre 24 million units sold after 3 years in this gen and 20+ years total experience in the business? Who here actually believes if Apple made a real push into the game console space with an actual console that 20 years later they'd be only selling like 8 million consoles a year. This is a company that sells 230 million iPhones a year, 50-60 million iPads (and that's a decline for them) a year, sold almost 60 million Apple Watches in 2021 (lol, I knew this was a solid product for them, but that number is bonkers). 

Apple has succeeded in almost every major area they'd put some effort into. iPod? iPhone? iPad? Apple Watch? Air Pods? All hugely successful products. Shit even the Air Tag is now taking off as a hit product that consumers swear by. 

Microsoft failed with Zune. They failed with Skype. They failed miserably with Windows phone. They can't get out of third spot in the game business despite spending massive amounts of money. 

No one if they really critically thought of this would believe that Apple would be in the same spot MS is in the game business 20 years in. Do you suppose like from Apple's massive war chest that they would develop a few games? They probably would manage their IP a lot better than the dumb ways Microsoft has. Better than 50/50 chance I'd say that they own Disney within 5 years. 

Look at Sony at virtually every other industry they do business in ... they are not the market leader in almost anything else and quite often struggle in other areas (even areas they once dominated in like TV sales) ... even with the same president and board of directors. They are only on top in the gaming industry because they get gift wrapped really, really stupid mistakes from their competitors, enough at least so they can maintain their grip on the stationary console sector.  

Last edited by Soundwave - on 14 September 2023