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Soundwave on 10 September 2023
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zeldaring said:
sc94597 said:

The latest rumor is that the Switch is going to have a Lovelace GPU (that's 2024 technology, as Tegra Lovelace's aren't going to be in anything until then.) 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Optimistic-Nintendo-Switch-2-specs-leak-puts-forward-huge-CPU-and-GPU-changes-that-would-render-Tegra-T239-obsolete.748000.0.html

If it does indeed have that chip rather than the T239, then yes it is possible to get GTX 1650 level performance in a 20W form-factor ("switch-size"), especially when you alleviate the biggest bottleneck that the 1650 has in recent titles (4GB of VRAM.) 

Again this isn't magic, it's the result of reducing the size of transistors from 12nm to 5 nm, and of course having more VRAM available. 

FFVII (the game we were talking about) is very demanding on VRAM, in the video we see that the 4GB of VRAM was bottlenecking the compute-load of the 1650 (it was at 80% utilization.) The Switch 2 won't have this issue if it has the rumored 12GB of total unified memory. 8 GB could be allocated to graphics, 4GB to the OS. 

The chances it has the 2024 tech is like 1%. Nintendo loves to make profit from day one and T239 is already a huge jump from tegra, no reason for them to go with to go super high tech especially when every rumor says it won't even be a Olded display. I'll eat crow happily though and might even consider getting a switch 2 day 1 but it's not the nintendo way.

Tegra T239 was leaked like two years ago, lol, you guys were just not paying attention, the Tegra Orin that Tegra T239 is derived from was announced by Nvidia in 2019. 

Nintendo doesn't really have all the say here, this chip also has to work for Nvidia and in devices that they want and there's not like 10 different Tegra chips to choose from, there's going to be one generational leap upgrade consumer class version. The Tegra line is not big enough for Nintendo to choose here but I think people are underestimating how hard it is going to be to convince everyone to upgrade. A moderate upgrade IMO would create a lot of headaches for Nintendo especially when Switch 2 really can't look that much cosmetically different from a Switch 1 ... it has to have a big black slab of a screen in the middle and then Joycons on  the side ... if it is too much like the Switch 1, people are going to just think it's (well) a Switch 1. Even making the Wii U look too much like a Wii was a massive mistake. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 10 September 2023