Pemalite said:
Chrkeller said:
The RTX 2070 Super is a great card and according to numerous sources is the most comparable to the ps5. Also the 3070, according to Tom's hardware, beats out the 6700 xt..... the ps5 isn't quite a 6700 xt per Perma.... so yeah, sounds close to the 2070 super.
Also I never said the 3050 was comparable, I said the 3050 shockingly "wasn't bad" in comparison, which it isn't. Clearly I'm saying it is behind the ps5.
Don't be so disingenuous.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-6700-XT/4048vs4109
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You can't compare AMD with nVidia and assume they are "equivalent" comparisons.
1) nVidia tends to have higher geometry throughput.
2) nVidia tends to have better Ray Tracing performance.
3) nVidia tends to have different bottlenecks in it's rendering pipeline.
4) 2070 Super and 3050 are chalk and cheese. At higher resolutions (Or usage of heavy Alpha effects) the 2070 would be in another league due to TWICE the amount of memory bandwidth.
The 3050 is slower than the 2060 Super, let alone the 2070 Super. - https://www.techspot.com/review/2403-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050/
And if you took note of my comments, you will see that I said it falls between the 6700 and 6700XT, it's not a pure 6700XT equivalent.
Fact is, in terms of clockrates/architecture/functional units, the Playstation 5 closely resembles the 6700/6700XT parts in terms of capability.
Alex_The_Hedgehog said:
I mean, Switch graphics are definitely way behind PS5 and XS, but I wouldn't call them "stone age".
I already saw some Switch games that are very close to PS4 and XOne.
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It comes down to how much time you are willing to invest in "baking" your assets. - Every generation effects are becoming more dynamic and more resource intensive.
But the Switch doesn't have that luxury.
However when a competent developer keeps the Alpha transparency memory-bandwidth sapping effects to a minimum, bakes the lighting and shadows, the Switch can look impressive considering it's hardware, more so than launch PS4 or Xbox One games.
A game like Zelda: Links Awakening remake with it's very impressive material shaders and buffer effects, I would argue looks better than Xbox One launch titles like Dead Rising 3.
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I fully understand and I think we are saying the same thing. My point was the 2070 super isn't a weak gpu. It is quite strong, even today. Some seem to take an issue saying the 2070 super and the ps5 are comparable.... they are comparable.
Fair enough it isn't the best comparison but they are in the same league. That was my point.
And RT is terrible on the ps5.
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And I get the impression some are making the mistake of assuming a 3000 card is better than a 2000 card... which isn't the case.
Last edited by Chrkeller - on 07 September 2023
