SvennoJ said:
Chrkeller said:
1.5x the cost but online is free and the GPU can be upgraded without buying the inevitable Pro. Over the long haul I think PC is now cheaper.
I'm very new to PC gaming but I would expect it to be better performing as well.
Don't get me wrong the ps5 has some impressive power but in a year or two GPU will be cheaper and upgrading will be easy on the PC side.
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Well it is now (better performing) for 1.5x the price, 3 years after the PS5 launched.
Upgrading is not necessarily cheaper. A 4060 costs less than a PS5 yet only has 8GB RAM on board instead of 12GB on the 3060 (NVidea ugh). The cheapest 4070 12GB card (looking on Newegg.ca) is still more expensive than the ps5 (CA 805, PS5 is CA 650, PC was CA 1000)
The 3060's cheapest price is currently CA 410. So yeah if you already had a PC you could now upgrade a 1060 to a 3060 for 2/3rds of the price of a PS5. Yet if you also need to upgrade the SSD, CPU, PSU or RAM, you can easily spend more than a PS5 together.
Better performing depends on the game and level of optimization. The advantage of consoles is that all the settings and profiling has been done for you and the game optimized for the fixed hardware. It just runs. Same on PC is you're well over the recommended specs, yet on my 1060 I now always have to find the right trade offs between fps and fidelity.
One thing is certain, games are cheaper on PC. But it's not cheaper hardware wise. A console will give you roughly the same steady performance for 7 to 10 years. You can use a PC for that long as well without changes, but you either need to spend a lot more initially or more over time to match performance with consoles.
Anyway performance and fidelity mean little as the most fun I've had this year is with PSVR2 (which albeit twice as sharp as PSVR is really still only about DVD quality) and TotK at 900p30 on the Switch. And equivalent quality VR is definitely more expensive on PC and more hassle.
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For me online shifts the cost analysis. $80 a year for online for 7 years is $560.... that is likely a nice GPU upgrade in 3 years. Pays for itself since Sony (and MS) charge for online. RTX 4070, over 20 tflops, is $570...... Sony and MS are making online play expensive.
My intent is not to discourage nor influence console gamers. I'm just giving my opinion which is online charge by Sony is way too expensive. It will likely shift my next gen decisions.
Last edited by Chrkeller - on 04 September 2023
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