Mario v Link. SMB Wonder v TotK

[Pyro as Bill]

Slownenberg said:

curl-6 said:

Wonder's the first 2D Mario in 11 years and the first one that's not limited to the New Soup formula since 1990. It's also arriving at a time when the Mario movie has given the brand a massive boost. It is absolutely gonna be as big a deal as NSMBWii.

2D Mario is a series that defined the childhood of a generation of gamers, who are now adults with kids of their own. It's open to casual players in a way that TOTK simply isn't. It's not certain that it will outsell TOTK as that game is a phenomenon unto itself, but Mario absolutely has a shot at doing so.

I think you are underestimating TotK's appeal among casual players.

The irony

Yeah Wonder is the first new 2D Mario in 11 years, since one generation ago. "New Wii" was the first 2D Mario on a console in 3 generations! Also both "New WiiU" and Mario Maker 2 are on Switch. So it's not like there has been NO 2D Mario lately like there was when "New Wii" came out when the last 2D Mario had been all the way back on the SNES! And not sure where you are getting this not since 1990 idea from. SMW came out in 90/91/92, Yoshi's Island came out in '95, and New Wii and New WiiU came out in 2009, 2012, and re-released in 2019....you can't just pretend like those two console "New" games didn't come out, as well as Yoshi's Island. Using that logic I can just ignore BotW and say TotK is the first ever open world zelda in infinite years lol. Let's stick to facts!

Yes its going to be a big deal, and yeah I expect it to sell at least as well as "New Wii" did. I'm not in any way discounting it. But beating New Wii is probably going to be easier than beating TotK, and possibly significantly so.

This is the first real Mario game for real Nintendo gamers since NSMB Wii. Wii had Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros, SMB 2, SMB 3 and SM World.