| padib said: I have a few questions for this thread: |
Hello padib, I have enough time to respond to your post and answer your questions.
1. Yes, it does, despite a seemingly biased moderator running the show here. Most importantly, you have to understand that a war of this kind where's one clear aggressor and one clear victim does not allow for discussions where both parties in this war are treated equally, for the simple reason that they are absolutely not equal to begin with. Denying or downplaying Russia's role as the clear aggressor in this war is comparable to denying or downplaying the holocaust in World War II, which has long been an offense treated as big enough on this website to issue straight permabans without giving second chances. When you consider this, many of the people here who got thread-banned, including you, have been treated with kids gloves, because their (and your) views are appalling.
2. Personally, I don't care about any Ukrainian individual. I only care about Ukraine as a collective people who should be allowed to make their own choices and live peaceful lives. As history has shown time and time again, if an oppressor is allowed to reign freely, they'll never stop and also encourage other oppressors to follow in the same footsteps. That's why Russia should and must be stopped.
3. What I am hoping for is that Ukraine gets their whole land back and at least gets security guarantees by NATO if they aren't allowed to join NATO. The goal is longlasting peace in Europe and that can only be achieved by Ukraine coming under the umbrella of the most powerful defensive collaboration on this planet. The goal justifies the cost; a lot of people who live in free countries, including you, seemingly don't comprehend how blessed they are to live in a free country with no warzones. Europe used to be constantly at war with each other, so it was totally normal that any given person would have to live through at least one war, if not multiple ones.
4. The only way in which Russia is threatened by NATO is if they throw the first stone by attacking a NATO country or an ally, because NATO's entire purpose is defense. So if Russia had followed one of the most basic Christian values (Don't do to others what you don't want to have done to yourself.), they would have never gotten into a conflict with NATO.
5. Ukraine would have become like Belarus is today. People who don't agree with the regime and its crimes get imprisoned or killed. Ukraine would have drifted towards becoming a puppet state of Russia. For Ukraine it has essentially been a "pick your poison" situation all along, they had no good options available where nobody would have died. The option that Ukraine chose may cost more lives than any other, but at the same time it's the only one that provides the country with a chance for independence and freedom.
6. The West has not been clean in the past 50 years, past 100 years or whatever timeframe you want to pick. Virtually everybody knows this. But the thing is that it's clear that among all the less than ideal options we have, the USA and the EU are preferable because they've done and will do much less harm than anybody else.
7. Hatred towards Russian is not racism, because the hatred is not rooted in Russians being white, caucasians or whatever other traits they were born with and cannot be changed. The justification for hatred is that Russia started a completely unprovoked war and violates general rules of war by deliberately attacking and killing civilians. And yes, it's acceptable to despise a person for the country they were born in and are loyal to, because by your given definition the person is supportive of killing women and children for completely unjustified reasons.
8. How does this conflict lead us to a better world, that's what you should have been asking Russia. There was no good reason to start this war, no justification whatsoever.
9. Nowadays more people can live happy lives than in the past, so our civilization in North America and Europe is moving the right direction. Your Christian values are incredibly overrated, especially because they've driven people into suicide and have not only enabled pedophilia, but actively protected perpetrators. This is why people have been turning away from the Church, because the leadership of Christians is rotten to the core. Our society must finally move to the stage where members of the Church aren't exempt from laws by being allowed to handle prosecution and judgment internally within their own circles. Society has no need for Christian values, because basic human decency can cover everything concerning morals without the need for any institution that claims moral superiority all for itself.
Closing comments: A responsible answer demands that we face the truth without beating around the bush. You are a terrible person, padib. You support all the wrong people. You should be ashamed of yourself. You should think long and hard about your life and how you can stop to be such a tool. Because if you are a decent human being, there's only one answer and demand regarding this war: Russia must withdraw all of their troops from Ukrainian land and never attack or threaten again.
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