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zeldaring said:
RolStoppable said:

You don't think people are longing for a new SMB game in the year that the most successful movie based on a video game was released?

More importantly, did you properly understand what you were responding to in the first place? Switch's final top 3 of best-selling games.

I think it will do well, but the open world genre is king now and i don't see a 2d Mario beating it, Especially since switch already got one. So yea i'll take that bet. look at what Elden ring did for souls  going open world and same for zelda and 2d just isn't it. A open world 3d Mario i can see beating Zelda, not a 2d one.

I think it depends a lot on how good Wonder is. If Wonder turns out to be just a prettier and wackier "NSMB" game - something that doesn't feel that new after you get used to it or doesn't break new ground or just frankly isn't amazing - it'll almost certainly still do 20+ million (I think it doing under 20m is right around 0% chance) but I don't see it doing 30m. But if everyone is saying it is an incredible reinvention of 2D Mario and is an absolute must-buy game and another massive achievement on the Switch by Nintendo and word of mouth sweeps through the Switch user base then I could see it doing 30+ million though probably still not reaching the heights of BotW or Smash which will both probably end up close to 35m.

If I were to bet on it right now, I would say Wonder doesn't hit 30m and no way it comes close to BotW, and likely sells less than TotK. But that's cuz I'm worried it's gonna end up being not much more than a pretty and wacky wrapper around NSMB core play, hopefully my pessimism is wrong. But 2D Mario definitely has a larger potentially sales base than even super popular open world Zelda, but Nintendo did open world Zelda strikingly well, we have no idea how good this 2D Mario is gonna be.