Why Do People View the MS Acquisition of ABK as a "Good Thing?"

[VAMatt]

Ka-pi96 said:

VAMatt said:

I don't know what world you're living in. Almost everywhere on planet Earth, you're free to leave your job at any time, and there are other options available. That includes the option to start your own business, do gig work, or not work at all. There are virtually no situations where someone is tethered to an employer. If you set yourself up in a way where leaving a job is unreasonable for you, that's on you. That's not on the employer.. There are courts to sort out payment issues, if your employer tries to fuck you on your way out the door.

There certainly are many situations where employers treat employees poorly. My argument does not that everything is always great. My argument is that government is a net negative.  

Anyway, we're not going to agree on this. In your case, government getting involved was a net negative. A company should be able to fire you at any time, for any reason, with no compensation other than that which they have contractually agreed to with you, without threat of government force.  So, unless your employer agreed to some sort of job security for you that wasn't mandated by law, they should have been free to reduce your hours to zero, or just fire you in the middle of day on Monday because they don't like the color of shirt you're wearing.  If they did have some sort of voluntary contract with you, then there are courts to sort that out.  

And who do you think runs those courts...

Yeah, we're never going to agree. You sound like the type of person that wouldn't be opposed to slavery making a come back. Don't know whether it's because you're rich and happily exploit people, or because you're used to bending over for your corporate overlords, but plenty of us like actually having rights even if you don't.

You are right that government courts are also a problem. But, that's a different conversation. 

It ridiculous to say that I would be okay with slavery making a return. That's what you are supporting: Government controlling things, even though the institution has an incredibly bad track record, is responsible for the vast majority of human suffering both now and throughout history, and has been part and parcel of essentially all widespread slavery issues in human history. And, in fact, when you claim that rights exist that impose obligations on other people, you are supporting slavery.  It is impossible to have a right to a job, or a right to money, or a right to a big check on your way out of a job, without requiring other people to give you those things. If that's not slavery, I don't know what is. 

As for me, I'm definitely not rich, nor have I ever stayed in a shitty job. When the job sucks, I leave it. I've been a union member, son of a union organizer, a small business owner that's had the same employees for many years, in an area with an extremely competitive job market. Employees stay with me because I treat them well. I treat them well because if I don't, they will leave.  Plus it's the right thing to do.  But, you better believe that I'll fire you on a heartbeat if you are a drag on the company. The good people that have worked with me for years shouldn't be asked to carry dead weight simply because it sucks when you lose your job.