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Soundwave said:
Cobretti2 said:

You can't over correct because of past mistakes, you learn from them and not repeat them. Over compensation just creates a negative effect.

The issue with Ariel is like any Gamer who grew up in that time, nostalgia.  When you remake something it will always be subject to some argument just like with games. You have to wait long enough for the people to die off before it really becomes a non issue, or just accept there will always be backlash and just ignore it.

The biggest problem with Ariel is the media, they went out and found all the reaction videos of black people say shit like "oh may God she is black" and getting excited about, rather then OMG they picked a great actress for the roll. I mean you fuelling a race agenda war there and demeaning the actress, basically implying she got the work cause she's black. It seems to be fuelled mainly by Americans.

In 80s 90s 00s, it wasn't a big issue, people didn't seem to make a deal about black actors being in movies etc now every movie seems to be under a public microscope to a point these movies are starting to feel like token gestures to be inclusive. The movies from the 80s 90s 00s, I never felt when watching "oh look here is our token coloured person", for some common sense reason those movie scripts were written in a way that politics of race didn't appear in them and guess what they were enjoyable to watch because those actors did a great job. I didn't have one single thought about a coloured person being out of place. Now we get stupid statements like we made Cleopatra black in a documentary series cause well you know she lived in Africa so she couldn't be white". Lot of scientific evidence based arguments went into that conclusion. It is so hard not to think these new movies are token gestures when they slam it in our heads via media outlets.

Yeah those uppity negroes getting too excited about a black Ariel, really needed to be put in their place and calm down. How dare they be excited over a black Ariel, obviously that's the problem. Is it possible she got the part by the way simply because she was the best for the role? How many girls her age can act AND sing at that level? *crickets*. 

In the 80s/90s/00s the standard "norm" was all-white or predominantly white cast. PoC just accepted that as the norm because that was all Hollywood would give them. 

The truth is it's plainly transparent what the issue is ... white people are used to movies catering to them 99% of the time with white actors being the leads most of the time, with the "token exception" for the uber-talented black guy like an occasional Eddie Murphy here or Will Smith there (usually one of these guys per decade, lol). Now that a *few* big movies are casting in a more diverse way, guess what? Some people are not happy, it's plainly predictable why. 

The messaging is clear ... black people, brown people, Asian people aren't supposed to be leading in Hollywood movies. They should know their place in the corner and stay there, unless they are clearly defined genre-tropes ... like a Chinese guy leading a kung fu movie, OK (though a Van Damme or Seagal or Jason Statham are also welcome to take those parts too, no problem there). But if the colored folk dare try to step out of that box, it's a problem. It's "tokenism" now apparently, but clearly not when it's done the other way around. 

I have no problem with people being happy. It's Hollywood and media making a big deal see we did it to make these people happy or speeches about how we doing diversity, look at us we playing our part attitude. They bring race into it by highlighting it rather then just say we picked the actress with the best voice and talent for it.

It is no different then those fake videos of people donating stuff to poor people and putting it up on social media without their approval. I mean fuck I live in the CBD and help homeless people out, but I don't go patting myself on the back for it on social media seeking attention, look at me I donated something to a person of need.

This is why I say it is tokenism, look at me we are the good studio of the industry filling in our coloured quota and letting you all know about it in your face that we doing it (and yes they don't say it in those words they use PR speak). That to me is degrading to the actress. If I was her I would be thinking did they really pick me on my talent or am I a publicity stunt to make Hollywood feel better about itself.

It's no different then women who are on boards of companies that show up for photo opportunities and the men are their smiling shaking their hand, then during the meeting the the same men saying it's ok you don't need to stress about it every time she has something to say in the meeting. Basically tokenism we hire women into power position, but in reality in the background she doesn't have input and starts to wonder why is she in this role. Now don't take this as ALL work places are like that, but there are some that still exist with that attitude.

So the point I am making is, we need to stop dividing ourselves by race, gender sexuality etc and focus on talent and attributes of the person who was given the job. Talk about actors for their talent and not try to stir the pot which leads to doubt of that person's ability. The media has no place in bring up skin colour for any of their articles as a talking point as all it does it fuel hate.