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Cobretti2 on 11 July 2023
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Soundwave said:
curl-6 said:

Whitewashing is largely a thing of the past at this point; the current trend is going in the opposite direction, with people of colour being swapped into white characters and stories in a way that's quite tokenistic and lazy.

If representation isn't authentic and reflective of society, then it's nothing but skin deep. Tokenism is not genuine.

There's also the risk that if you push too far with noble intentions, you end up overrepresenting; for example, in the UK in 2020, it was found that 22% of roles on TV went to ethnic minorities, which might sound like under-repesentation, until you factor in that they make up 12% of the UK's population, so their presence on TV is actually double their real world presence.

Ideally, representation on screen should accurately reflect society, so that everyone gets a fair and democratic share.

Sorry but I call bullshit on a lot of this. Firstly how many of those British shows have a non-white lead? Probably not 20+% of them. 

The fact of the matter is when it comes to TV/movies, white people have been massively over represented to the point where the issue actually is it's like a spoiled child that is used to all the attention now throwing a shit fit when they realize they have to share once in a while. 

Who really is actually being "hurt" by Ariel being black in 1/20 times Disney has had a non-white "princess"? The people whining most loudly about this are coming from the place of the "status quo is white people in the lead in everything all the time and anything different is an affront to me" basically, the spoiled brat of a kid who is used to be catered to non-stop now throwing a crying fit because they're realizing they have to share with other kids on the playground once in a while. 

You can't over correct because of past mistakes, you learn from them and not repeat them. Over compensation just creates a negative effect.

The issue with Ariel is like any Gamer who grew up in that time, nostalgia.  When you remake something it will always be subject to some argument just like with games. You have to wait long enough for the people to die off before it really becomes a non issue, or just accept there will always be backlash and just ignore it.

The biggest problem with Ariel is the media, they went out and found all the reaction videos of black people say shit like "oh may God she is black" and getting excited about, rather then OMG they picked a great actress for the roll. I mean you fuelling a race agenda war there and demeaning the actress, basically implying she got the work cause she's black. It seems to be fuelled mainly by Americans.

In 80s 90s 00s, it wasn't a big issue, people didn't seem to make a deal about black actors being in movies etc now every movie seems to be under a public microscope to a point these movies are starting to feel like token gestures to be inclusive. The movies from the 80s 90s 00s, I never felt when watching "oh look here is our token coloured person", for some common sense reason those movie scripts were written in a way that politics of race didn't appear in them and guess what they were enjoyable to watch because those actors did a great job. I didn't have one single thought about a coloured person being out of place. Now we get stupid statements like we made Cleopatra black in a documentary series cause well you know she lived in Africa so she couldn't be white". Lot of scientific evidence based arguments went into that conclusion. It is so hard not to think these new movies are token gestures when they slam it in our heads via media outlets.