By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
Machiavellian on 10 July 2023
Edit Thread
konnichiwa said:
Machiavellian said:

I will also chime in and say as someone who enjoys his Xbox and interested in the games coming, my enjoyment does not increase based on Xbox somehow winning the console war or even really matching the PS5.  I stated way before Phil confirmed it that Sony won the console war and thus MS is not concerned about winning something they already lost but instead is concentrating on their stragety of content and keeping a competitive product.  You do not need to be number 1 in order to make enough profit that the business is viable.

I believe the issue with some people is that they are still in the trenches of the console war when that battle is over.  Instead I would be concerned when MS is not making deals, publishing games, reducing staff at key studios, cancelling a lot o projects, you know things that would actually effect me as a Xbox gamer not the e penis of my console is better than yours mentality.  Then again, I have all the consoles so my take probably is different since I purchase a console because it has games I want to play instead of if it sells better than its competition.

It isn't just about Sales but when I joined vgchartz we were in a period with Sony being like:

'Bioshock is coming to PS3'  We can already buy it on Xbox 360 for 20 bucks don't need a PS3..

'Oblivion is comin to PS3'  ^Same thing

'Eternal Sonata is coming to PS3'  ^Same thing

'Star ocean is coming to PS3'  ^Same thing

'Tales of Vesperia is coming to PS3'  ^Only in Japan tho so get it on Xbox 360

'Condemned II is coming to PS3' ^But condemned I isn't on PS3 so it is better to get an Xbox 360

' Mass Effect II coming to PS3' ^ Ugh if you like Mass Effect you should get an Xbox 360

And so on....   because of that foundation plenty of studios were like 'lets also release on X360 like Tekken/Soul Calibur and later on the big announcement FFXIII'.

This is a simular situation but Sony invested a lot of money to get some games, Persona 5/Tales games etc on PS3 to switch the situation around or atleast create a reason why anyone should want a PS3.

Ms is not creating a foundation so far...

You do know that there was a change in direction between where MS and gaming in general was going compared to when Don Matt was sent packing and Phil took over.  First, MS was actually getting out of PC gaming as they dropped a number of studios.  The concentration on non gaming iniatives like the Xbox one and the direction it signaled to a lot of gamers and developers at the time.  The lax in relationships that happen during the late 360 early XBox one era.

It appears to me that you have not paid attention to developments maybe because they are not moving fast for you or your expectations are out of line with how business work. Xbox one and Don direction killed a lot of momentum that MS had coming into that gen and it put them behind as we have noticed.  Those relationships do not just come back out of no where, it takes times to gain that trust back and also gain momentum when you have very competitive environment.  

So to boil this all down is that from what I have seen and what a lot of people have noticed is that nothing is ever good enough for you.  You seem to ignore progress, you ignore wins and you ignore anything that shows that MS continue to build and prosper relationships.  I on the other hand see MS trying to fill a diverse profolio of content for GP and games to the system in general.  A lot of these moves do not move the needle today because it takes way more than these moves to make any immediate change but in business you cannot always change the current but you can build to the future.

Even with your last statement it shows that you just have pretty much put up blinders on and fail to see the foundation that is right in front of your face.  Maybe you feel that MS has some magic wand called money that can solve all their problems but true relationships and gaining support is never solved by money.  You have to get on the ground and work those sources everyday in order to get true support.