LurkerJ said:
I think the modern left is completely failing the LGBT cause with the highly civilised and the high tolerance they're trying to show to every body, I am not saying you're suggesting is wrong, and I am sure you're a nice person, but this simply doesn't work. Showing tolerance to intolerance isn't going to solve problems, it creates them. The left needs a wake up and needs to remember that de-christianising the west was a long-term process that included ridiculing and criticising religions and religious people at every turn, this sounds mean and horrible, but it's important to remember that religions criticises us at every turn as well, way more harshly and downright unreasonably. Kids born into religious families should be exposed to a culture that has normalised criticising their beliefs, just the way religions has normalising criticising liberal values, this makes their critical thinking centres less subjected to brainwashing as it keeps a narrow window open to understand that not everything they're being taught is true. We'll never have that in Saudi, but we should never allow their ideology to fester in our communities in the name of tolerance and being civil. On the other hand, acknowledging that we can't eliminate LGBT-phobia in Saudi, we should open proper immigration channels to the LGBT communities living under oppression, and it would a step in the right direction of regulating immigration in the west. |
This is really bad in the UK. You have left wing people here who genuinely argue things like Muslims not having a homophobia problem despite all the evidence to the contrary and it's infuriating seeing a backwards ideology spreading here and people defending it and attacking those who speak out against it.
Last edited by Norion - on 28 June 2023
