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I don't know for certain. But I would recommend not antagonising the other party, because it is the first step of having a meaning conversation... Which could help the situation. Everyone needs to understand that if the situation was different, and you were born into a different society, and culture than yours right now. You most likely would have absorbed that culture into your character. Being on the opposite end of the conversation right now. |
I think the modern left is completely failing the LGBT cause with the highly civilised and the high tolerance they're trying to show to every body, I am not saying you're suggesting is wrong, and I am sure you're a nice person, but this simply doesn't work. Showing tolerance to intolerance isn't going to solve problems, it creates them.
The left needs a wake up and needs to remember that de-christianising the west was a long-term process that included ridiculing and criticising religions and religious people at every turn, this sounds mean and horrible, but it's important to remember that religions criticises us at every turn as well, way more harshly and downright unreasonably. Kids born into religious families should be exposed to a culture that has normalised criticising their beliefs, just the way religions has normalising criticising liberal values, this makes their critical thinking centres less subjected to brainwashing as it keeps a narrow window open to understand that not everything they're being taught is true. We'll never have that in Saudi, but we should never allow their ideology to fester in our communities in the name of tolerance and being civil.
On the other hand, acknowledging that we can't eliminate LGBT-phobia in Saudi, we should open proper immigration channels to the LGBT communities living under oppression, and it would a step in the right direction of regulating immigration in the west.
‘A sense of betrayal’: liberal dismay as Muslim-led US city bans Pride flags
Many liberals celebrated when Hamtramck, Michigan, elected a Muslim-majority council in 2015 but a vote to exclude LGBTQ+ flags from city property has soured relations
Muslim residents packing city hall erupted in cheers after the council’s unanimous vote, and on Hamtramck’s social media pages, the taunting has been relentless: “Fagless City”, read one post, emphasized with emojis of a bicep flexing.
The resolution, which also prohibits the display of flags with ethnic, racist and political views, comes at a time when LGBTQ+ rights are under assault worldwide, and other US cities have passed similar bans, with the vast majority driven by often white politically conservative Americans.
Mayor Amer Ghalib, 43, who was elected in 2021 with 67% of the vote to become the nation’s first Yemeni American mayor, told the Guardian on Thursday he tries to govern fairly for everyone, but said LGBTQ+ supporters had stoked tension by “forcing their agendas on others”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned
This doesn't shock me at all, even though it happened in a liberal city like Michigan.
