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Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:

That’s not the same thing at all. I said as long as the successor isn’t way more expensive and doesn’t focus on a gimmick that people don’t want than cross-gen titles shouldn’t hurt sales.

DSi XL wasn’t $199.99 when 3DS launched, it was $169.99. 3DS at $249.99 was ~47% more expensive than the most expensive DS sku. People didn’t care enough about a 3D screen to pay the extra money.

On top of that, 3DS had a terrible launch/post-launch lineup.

March-Nintendogs & Pilotwings

June-Ocarina of Time 3D

September-Star Fox 64 3D


That’s the equivalent of

Switch 2-$499.99

Power Glove required

launch titles-Ring Fit Adventure 2 & Wave Race

post launch titles-Twilight Princess 4K & Star Fox Assault 4K


So yeah if that’s what Switch 2 looks like than I don’t see it doing too well.

DSi XL launched at $189.99, then they cut the price to $169.99 a few months before the 3DS, but I think that was their inclination that they could get away with $250, I don't think they just randomly decided "$250 because why not", they saw the DSi XL selling at that rate well enough for a while and thought "well if a revision to an old model can be sold for $189, surely a new system can be $250". 

Obviously they got carried away with the Wii and DS' success and became arrogant and sloppy. 

In either case, I don't think Nintendo will go soft or lazy with the Switch 2 launch. 3DS and Wii U do not feel that long ago and certainly at Nintendo I don't think anyone has forgotten how it felt to be in that situation. 

I think Nintendo will always err on the side of caution with product launches going forward for a good long while, like the Switch, I suspect Switch 2 will have a loaded lineup especially in its first 8-12 months on market. 

Launching lazy/sloppy/half assed just isn't worth it. It ends up being far more work in the long run if anything, it's so much easier have a big time start then the rest of the generation is more like walking downhill, trying to recover from a bad launch is like walking the same distance but having to do it walking uphill. Just not worth it. 

I don’t disagree with anything you said, I’m just not sure how any of it relates to the point I was making when you quoted me.

I said if Switch 2 is a pretty straight forward successor that doesn’t have an unwanted gimmick jacking up the price than I don’t think cross-gen titles will hold it back.

All this talk about 3DS is irrelevant because 3DS does not fit that description, it was a lot more expensive than the DS line because of the 3D screen people didn’t care about and it had a poor software lineup.

The whole point was talking about whether or not cross-gen titles will hurt Switch 2, Nintendo was not releasing cross-gen titles on DS/3DS so I’m not sure how that was a counterpoint to begin with.



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