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Azzanation on 13 June 2023
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Machiavellian said:

Yeah, they are going from one competitive situation to another.  Now instead of cooperating with Steam, they would be another direct competitor.  You your self just pretty much argued against that but now you are supporting it as long as its MS, that doesn't make sense. 

Yeah, GP makes billions but that's because it has HARDWARE to run on.  You are still trying to convince everyone that consumers will want GP without hardware.  You are also trying to convince everyone without hardware, MS can sell GP against Valve Steam and developers and publishers will be flocking in droves to put their games on GP without hardware.  MS on the PC already have a storefront.  MS on PC already offer GP.  How is MS going to get console users to buy into GP without hardware.  Now we go back to the same situation again.  MS would need to rely on putting their service on Sony and Nintendo console which is a direct competition with their services.  You want us to believe that Sony and Nintendo will say yes if MS leave the hardware market when they are not willing to say yes today.  That is a hard sell

Do you forget that GP is a games download service first and foremost.  What you have not provided is why someone will get GP without hardware.  Why would they today or even in the near future want to only be able to play their games over XCloud.  We have an interview with Phil today talking about Cloud and he pretty much stated exactly what we have noticed about the service.  Its not close to being ready and more of another way to play your game when you are out and about.  He doesn't even mention it as the main focus point for the business which is another point in how MS view it.  Its still in beta, you never hear any updates on it expansion or pretty much anything.  XCloud will as we have noticed will be just another add on service geared to give gamers more options to play their game but never the main focus.

Last but not least, no one see a reason for mid gen hardware.  That is not him saying he doesn't see a need for console hardware which is something totally different.  The only reason you would do a mid gen is that at this time or next year, you can drop the price of your main console and bring out a new one that is so much more powerful then your current system to make a huge dent in sales as well as games.  

Here is that interview from Phil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMoi1wNagA&ab_channel=BloombergTechnology

Keep in mind, i am not talking about now. I am talking about the future. Next gen maybe the gen after. Its going to get to a point that people wont need dedicated hardware to play the games they want. 

Sony and Nintendo can say no to GP, they can lose their cut on Halo and Elder Scrolls 6 etc if thats what the shareholders want. If MS gain ABK, they can also lose their cut on CoD too. Thats on them.

MS focus on hardware is not their focus anymore. Sure their consoles are built amazing but majority of the world simply dont care for it. 

MS compete with Steam while currently using Steam to sell their games. I am not sure where you think i contradicted myself here. That was always the case. 

Next 5 to 10 years, GP will be available on alot of devices where majority of the new gen wont have to worry about purchasing expensive dedicates hardware. Thats my point. Mum will say, you dont need an Xbox, you have one at home.