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Chazore said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

I'm actually expecting the 4060 to be weaker than the 3060 without DLSS3 in a wide range of games.

Just like the 4060Ti did compared to the 3060Ti, The 4060 looses 4 Streaming Multiprocessors compared to the 3060. However, while the 4060Ti could compensate most of the drop from 38 to 34 SM with clock speed and IPC improvements, this will be much harder for the 4060, who drops from 28 to 24SM, which is by percentage a much bigger loss. Worse, the clock speed increase over Ampere is smaller than with the 4060Ti, and the latter already got beaten by it's predecessor in several games...

I saw some shots from the slide performance before, it was doing worse with the Witcher 3 Remaster, and that was with DLSS and frame generation...

Imagine not using either and the 4060 will just perform worse outright, and that's why I hate that these cards are having to rely on both those techs, just to make perf look semi decent.

It's just annoying to see them rely so heavily on both DLSS/Frame gen, when we know without it, the cards get worse off perf. It's like they are trying to sell a a triple beef burger, but by the time you get it, it only contains a single patty and looks nothing like what was advertised. 

At this point, NVidia's low end seems like a "why did you guys bother with this?" moment. I just wish we could go back to having the 80ti,80,70,60, not:

90ti, 90, 80ti, 80, 70ti, 70, 60ti,60 and "Super" variants in between, it's so saturated and almost pointless. 

bolded: I compare it more to a double Cheeseburger being replaced by a triple... but with the burger patties being wafer-thin and instead of normal-sized, resulting in less meat overall.

italic: Kepler and Fermi were even worse. Not only had they confusing x60/x50 versions designed to rip off customers (an OEM-only 760 with 192bit bus instead of 256 and lowered clock speeds for Kepler, a "boost" 650 with wider bus and higher clock speeds that came close to the 660 - the ones you could buy that is (with 2 very different memory options), as this time around the (much!) better 660 versions were OEM-only), they also had a plethora of cards under the x50, as in a x45, x40, x30, x20, x10 and even an x5 that were all under $100 - and even at that, they were overpriced as they just lured budget gamers into buying stuff not fit for gaming.